[Talk-it] R: R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

Sky One skyone a skyone.it
Gio 28 Giu 2012 09:13:25 BST


Scusate se reintervengo sulla cosa, ma mi ha ricontattato pnorman per
continuare a fare le pulci (erroneamente e gli ho risposto per le
rime) sull'import. C'è una cosa che però devo girare alla lista:

If the Italian documentation is leading people to ignore the
guidelines then the documentation should be looked at.

Allora, o le indicazioni per l'import[1] sono sbagliate (ed ha ragione
a dire che vadano corrette - prego chi "capisce di import"
(quasi-cit.) di fare le opportune correzioni), oppure è tutto
corretto, anche se fatto non seguendo pedissequamente le linee guida,
e allora metto un filtro (mentale) ai messaggi di questo tizio. Questo
è uno dei momenti in cui rimpiango il fatto che OSM non abbia una
gerarchia...

Ciao

[1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012




Ciao SkyOne,

pnorman ti ha inviato un messaggio tramite OpenStreetMap con l'oggetto
Re: Imports:

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Sorry for the delay - other matters have occupied my time.

On 2012-06-01 07:13:58 UTC SkyOne wrote:

On 2012-06-01 06:01:36 UTC pnorman wrote:

I noticed you importing in Italy in the changeset
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11762408

I looked for documentation for this import, but couldn't find any.
Could you please point me at the wiki documentation and the discussion
on the imports mailing list that happened before this import? As a
remind, the import guidelines are at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

You can find the page about importing/mapping data from Regione Emilia
Romagna here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012

Could you see that the import information gets added to the import catalogue?

There are the Talk-it's threads about what to do after the earthquake
and how to import data:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028781.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028801.html

They also call for imports to be done from a dedicated account.
Providing links in the profile of that account to the import
documentation can be helpful

It also looks you deleted all the existing buildings, for example
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/78321342 and
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152081061

The second one had tags on it.

I made the import how it's described in the "Inserimento con JOSM"
paragraph of the
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012
page. I do a resume for you: 1) open the OSM file derived from the
Regione Emilia Romagna's DB 2) open the same area 3) check (manually!)
what buildings are in the OSM DB now and are/aren't in the Regione
Emilia Romagna's datas and delete the double ones: this is made 'cause
the buildings in the Regione Emilia Romagna's DB are better than the
previously 4) check with the "PCN 2006" WMS that the building are
georeferenced correctly 5) upload data to OSM

If the Italian documentation is leading people to ignore the
guidelines then the documentation should be looked at.

Why did you delete these? It looks like you deleted existing data to
import data, which is not recommended.

As I said, the new datas are better than the older. As you can see
it's not an "automatic" import, but there's always a human check ...

My recollection was in the two cases I linked the imported data was
worse. I'm downloading the data to check, but I know one of them had a
tag.
-- 
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