[OSM-ja] Fwd: [Tagging] Help undoing an admin level 3 edit to Japan

Satoshi IIDA nyampire @ gmail.com
2015年 8月 12日 (水) 04:26:44 UTC


いいだです。

Tagging MLにて、日本におけるadmin_level=3の利用に対する指摘がありました。

詳細は転送の内容を読んでいただきたいのですが、要約すると以下のようなかんじです。
「日本地域で admin_level=3 を付与する編集が行われているが、
admin_level=3は将来の州のために予約されたレベルであり、現在は使わないはずだ。
admin_level=3のタグを削除したい」

私も同意見です。
ざっとoverpassで調べてみたところ、
このタグは、「関東地方」や「中部地方」などの、○○地方のオブジェクトに対してあてられているようです。

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/532759
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/336589435

この○○地方は行政区ではなく、行政組織が存在しないため、
そもそもadmin_levelを割り当てるのは不適切と考えています。

後ほどChangesetコメントなどにも指摘を行ってみる予定ですが、
まずはご連絡、ということでお知らせします。



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From: johnw <johnw @ mac.com>
Date: 2015-08-11 20:30 GMT+09:00
Subject: [Tagging] Help undoing an admin level 3 edit to Japan
To: strategy and related tools Tag discussion <tagging @ openstreetmap.org>


A few months ago, someone enabled admin level 3 on regional boundaries in
Japan.

This is an error, but I don’t know how to deal with it.

Admin level 3 boundaries are reserved for future for “states” of Japan. The
regions currently have historical names, but just like “So-cal” or “New
England” in the US, they are popular but administratively meaningless
names, so they are not supposed to be used for any admin level.

Japan has prefectures (provinces) - which are admin level 4, and are
currently the highest order political boundaries in Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefectures_of_Japan
("Japan's 47 prefectures form the country's
first jurisdiction and administrative division levels.”)

Someone outside of Japan came along and changed it, even through it is
against the information provided on the OSM wiki for Japan.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging#Boundary

Japan is currently debating the creation of states by combining the tiny
prefectures (probably in the next 20 years, as the population shrinks
outside Tokyo) - but nothing is decided yet.

http://www.clair.or.jp/j/forum/honyaku/hikaku/pdf/up-to-date_en3.pdf (scroll
to the end for maps)

Japan is the same size as California, and California has about the same
number of counties as Japan has prefectures. They are really small.


I am very uncomfortable changing admin settings for a whole country,and
have never used the boundary tag, so I’m asking someone to go and remove
the admin level 3 tags from the regions. It presents political boundaries
that don’t exist.

Would someone please remove these erroneous edits?

Javbw

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