[Talk-lt] Lithuania city/ town/ village names question

[Nerijus Šalkauskas]

It's Wikipedia data. You write a name of a village into Lithuanian
Wikipedia. You will most likely find coordinates to it (even if 0 residents
live there and it's just farmland now). So you just import already open
data into another database (that being OSM).

That's my two cents.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, 18:43 J M, <justinelliotmeyers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Aidas,
> Thank you for the quick response and detailed information. You are
> correct, OSM already has great data for locations in Lithuania. I am not
> suggesting any update or modification. I am trying to figure out where the
> names actually came from. Registrų Centras has different names than OSM -
> where can I find the source of the OSM names? Is there a table somewhere
> that has both versions? I hope this makes sense to you. I have been looking
> for this for a few days and only found the
> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
> data - but there isn't a source in that either, and I am not getting an
> email response from them.
>
> Again, Thank You!
> Justin
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM Aidas Kasparas <a.kasparas at gmc.lt> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Justin,
>>
>> Your intensions are good, but information from Registrų Centras has
>> already been integrated into OSM. This endeavor was described by Tomas in a
>> blog post. You can read google's translation of that post at
>> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=lt&tl=en&u=https://blog.openmap.lt/2021/04/04/lietuvos-adresu-informacijos-ikelimas/
>>
>> Regarding Lithuanian names we should start from the fact that Lithuanian
>> language extensively uses grammatical cases. I.e. instead of adding extra
>> words like 'in', 'for', 'of', and so on, we change end of the word.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_case#Lithuanian . In your
>> example 'Kaunas' is the name of the city. Form 'Kauno' means 'of Kaunas'.
>> 'm.' is short for 'miestas' -> 'city', so 'Kauno m.' is 'City of Kaunas'.
>>
>> You may find 'raj.' and 'sav.' next to the name of cities. From soviet
>> times all territory was divided into municipalities -- called 'rajonas'.
>> But biggest cities in LT had two municipalities. First, responsible for
>> urbanized part -- city itself, using 'miestas', and second, countryside
>> "donut" around the city -- using 'rajonas'. Recently some municipalities
>> started to change official names from 'X rajonas' to 'X savivaldybė',
>> literally, 'X self government', so, 'sav.'.
>>
>> Hope, this helps.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Aidas Kasparas
>>
>> On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 10:53 -0400, J M wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>> I am working on a mapping project in an attempt to map all cities, towns,
>> and villages in Lithuania. I found two amazing resources:
>> https://www.registrucentras.lt/p/1201
>>
>> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
>>
>> The first dataset is official government data, with clear copyright/
>> terms of use. The second dataset I believe is a ESRI company, with a
>> derived dataset of this data, with incorporated census populations, and an
>> additional name. I believe there are formal names for locations in
>> Lithuania and then there are names that people use and are in wikipedia.
>> Can you help me better understand location names in Lithuania?
>>
>> An example would be:
>> Kaunas,Kauno,Kauno m.
>> Marijampolė,Marijampolės,Marijampolės m.
>> Šiauliai,Šiaulių,Šiaulių m.
>> Mažeikiai,Mažeikių,Mažeikių m.
>> Vilnius,Vilniaus,Vilniaus m.
>> Panevėžys,Panevėžio,Panevėžio m.
>> Alytus,Alytaus,Alytaus m.
>> Klaipėda,Klaipėdos,Klaipėdos m.
>>
>> If you have any information, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Also, Does anyone know the terms of use/ copyright from the census agency
>> village populations or gis data?
>> Thank you!
>> Justin
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