[OSM-np] VDCs in OSM

[amrit karmacharya]

Although, gadm says "The coordinate reference system is
latitude/longitude<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system>
and
theWGS84 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System> datum." It
does not match the GPS tracks collected in field. It is in Everest 1830, we
must convert(transform/project) it to WGS84 to be used in OSM.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Nama Budhathoki
<namabudhathoki at gmail.com>wrote:

> Looks like we should redirect this discussion to OSM-legal talk page. Once
> the license issue is sorted out, we will be happy to work on the technical
> details for uploading data.
>
> It would be great if one of you Prabhas or Amrit could summarize this
> discussion and post it to legal talk-page.
>
> Nama
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:27 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Actually gadm is already being used in OSM for Zonal Boundary.
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45328019 and
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/340899.
>>
>> Gadm States the data as "They can be used for non-commercial purposes
>> only.  It is not allowed to redistribute
>> these data, or use them for commercial purposes, without prior consent."
>> OSM can be used for Commercial Purpose Too so there may be some kind of
>> license issue. we should write to gadm and osm legal.
>>
>> The boundary in OSM is not accurate, looks like the geometry has been
>> simplified to remove unnecessary nodes and convert curves to lines. There
>> are places where osm boundary does not match actual boundary. I checked the
>> boundary in Gadm, and it is accurate there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Prabhas Pokharel <
>> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I just realized that the data that is distributed by GADM.org
>>> for Nepal contains VDC boundaries (as admin level 4), and is licensed with
>>> the following note (its in the readme.pdf if you download the data; a copy
>>> is here<https://github.com/prabhasp/NepalMaps/raw/gh-pages/baselayers/NPL_adm/read_me.pdf>
>>> ):
>>>
>>> "Sources Used": FortiusOne Inc. (via WorldBank;
>>> http://maps.worldbank.org/overlays/3238) (Creative Commons Attribution
>>> 3.0 License.)
>>>
>>> Is this license permissive enough to be used in OSM? Since only
>>> attribution is required, can we do the attribution via an OSM comment, or
>>> perhaps even by creating a specific account that is used just to upload
>>> this information....?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Prabhas Pokharel <
>>> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (OSM-Nepal list.. see the conversation below about putting VDCs of
>>>> Nepal into OSM).
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to see if I can find contacts at UN/OCHA who may have access
>>>> to the digital files here.
>>>> In the meantime, if anybody wants, most of the files seem to have been
>>>> uploaded by http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sadalmelik; maybe
>>>> we can contact him / her?
>>>>
>>>> --prabhas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IT says This work is excerpted from an official document of the
>>>>> United Nations. The policy of this organisation is to keep most of its
>>>>> documents in the *public domain<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/public_domain>
>>>>> * in order to disseminate "as widely as possible the ideas
>>>>> (contained) in the United Nations Publications".
>>>>>
>>>>> SO maybe we can contact UN for digital format. In its current state
>>>>> i.e. png format, it is not much helpful. I tried using it as background in
>>>>> JOSM but i could not idenify the boundaries.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Nama Budhathoki <
>>>>> namabudhathoki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We will explore this. Thanks for the link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nama
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Prabhas Pokharel <
>>>>>> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we use these?
>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:District_VDC_maps_of_Nepal
>>>>>>> Might be worth seeing if one of these (maybe walking papers style)
>>>>>>> can be converted to actual boundaries, and going from there....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just noticed that google maps already has village markers for each
>>>>>>> VDC and Municipality; I think they take centerpoints (or maybe the whole
>>>>>>> area, I'm not sure).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Prabhas Pokharel
>>>>>>> http://prabhasp.com
>>>>>>> US mobile: +1 347 948 7654
>>>>>>> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Nama R. Budhathoki, PhD
>>>>>> Nepal Lead
>>>>>> The World Bank's Open Data for Resilience Initiative (OpenDRI)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web: http://budhathoki.wordpress.com
>>>>>> Skype: namabudhathoki
>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Nama_Budhathoki*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Prabhas Pokharel
>>>> http://prabhasp.com
>>>> US mobile: +1 347 948 7654
>>>> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Prabhas Pokharel
>>> http://prabhasp.com
>>> US mobile: +1 347 948 7654
>>> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Nama R. Budhathoki, PhD
>
>
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