[talk-ph] new high-res images available from digitalglobe

Wed Oct 21 12:17:12 BST 2009

Well, once option 1 is set, people can start tracing. Also, we can then
start organizing for an event for this. It would be nice if we can get
someone who is familiar with Pangasinan.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:06 PM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>wrote:

> For option 1 somebody at main talk committed to help.
>
> For option 3, can you join to at least start the tracing once we have
> the data?  Parang code sprint only this time trace sprint ala google
> map maker mapping party.
>
> On 10/21/09, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think a combination of options 1 and 3 is better. Set-up option 1 and
> have
> > option 3 for publicity.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Just to add, we are also allowed to give the data to anybody outside
> >> OSM who wish to use them.  But I propose they should get an approval
> >> of the group and not just me for that matter.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:17 AM, maning sambale
> >> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Just got a word from DigitalGlobe re: clarification on the license
> >> agreement.  Here is the reply:
> >> > "You have full permission to distribute it as you feel you need to, to
> >> > as
> >> many people as you need to, as long as when applicable, you credit the
> >> imagery to "DigitalGlobe"." Provided we do not sell the imagery, it is
> >> completely OK to use the data in OSM. Yay!
> >> >
> >> > As a preview here's the coverage of data (attached)
> >> > quickbird_coverage.png
> >> >
> >> > An example imagery showing inundated riverbanks post San Roque dam
> >> (October 09, 2009)
> >> > flooded_banks.png
> >> >
> >> > The rest of the images are archive (2006) but still very useful.
> >> >
> >> > I have been reviewing Gaza's experience on how they used a similar
> >> imagery:
> >> >
> >>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Palestine_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography
> >> >
> >> > There are several options we can explore in order to share the load on
> >> tracing the imagery:
> >> > 1. Create a secured non-cacheable WMS - pro: anybody with proper
> >> credentials can access the data and use it in josm or merkaartor. con -
> >> need
> >> a server to host and maintain
> >> >
> >> > 2. Give the actual images to interested volunteers - pro: easy to
> >> distribute just provide a download link or send a dvd con: we cannot
> >> guarantee that the imagery won't be sold or anything.  Just so you know
> >> this
> >> cost around 2.8 million pesos from a local reseller.
> >> >
> >> > 3.  Let's organize a map tracing event - pro: we have another social
> >> event to look forward invite LGUs who can use the data. con: logistical
> >> preparations
> >> >
> >> > As some of you know me personally, I would prefer to give out the data
> >> > to
> >> anyone interested but given the explicit request by DigitalGlobe not to
> >> let
> >> the data (raw imagery) used for profit, I am somehow hesitant in this
> >> case.
> >>  A good parnership with DigitalGlobe can help is in the future.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > cheers,
> >> > maning
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM, maning sambale <
> >> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Yep! Good enough for our purpose.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm 10% finished with the download (poor PC)!  Will post details on
> >> > > the data when I'm done.  In the meantime we need to discuss how we
> can
> >> > > share the load in extracting the data (covering 700 sq km @ 0.6
> meter
> >> > > resolution) within the bounds of  product license.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <
> >> seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> Is the imagery rectified already?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, maning sambale <
> >> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> That's really the plan.  They are aware that we are using it for
> OSM
> >> > >>> to support disaster recovery efforts.  Offline tracing is OK but
> >> > >>> re-distributing the imagery.  Based on experience, is not OK.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On 10/20/09, George Tujan <gtujan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> > Can't we just formally ask DigitalGlobe that we will be tracing
> >> their
> >> > >>> > images
> >> > >>> > for OSM?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, maning sambale
> >> > >>> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >> Hi,
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> DigitalGlobe provided high-res images for some areas affected
> by
> >> > >>> >> Pepeng in Northern Luzon.  I am downloading them now.  Might
> take
> >> 1
> >> > >>> >> full day (maybe more) to finish.
> >> > >>> >> I would like to share them to the group so that they can help
> >> tracing
> >> > >>> >> the roads.  However, I don't think DigitalGlobe allows for
> public
> >> > >>> >> access of the images.  Any suggestion how we can proceed?
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> Maybe a satellite tracing party?  @ Mikel, can you share your
> >> > >>> >> experience with Gaza?  AFAIK, you have access to highres images
> >> > >>> >> in
> >> the
> >> > >>> >> area but a similar non-public release of the images ws part of
> >> > >>> >> the
> >> > >>> >> agreement?
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> --
> >> > >>> >> cheers,
> >> > >>> >> maning
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> >> > > cheers,
> >> > > maning
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> >> > --
> >> > cheers,
> >> > maning
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
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> >> cheers,
> >> maning
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> cheers,
> maning
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