[talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers

Rally de Leon ralleon at gmail.com
Tue Mar 16 01:27:29 GMT 2010


+1 for amenity=clinic
+1 for clinic=public

what about the local "hilot" or manghihilot - the local/rural version
chiropractors? (concentrated on sprains and twisted muscles, even spine
alignments, who can locate aching body parts by holding the wrist or the
ankle); 'pinupulsuhan' in tagalog (actually measuring the flow of energy);
and i've seen korean alternative-medicine doctors on tv doing exactly the
same (practicing mix eastern-western medicine + tuina therapy). what i'm
trying to point out is that this is not a just local thing, koreans and
chinese have there own versions, and they are not quack doctors, yet they
bring relief to the community for free or sometimes charge a fee less than
cost of mcdo value meal.

although the term 'hilot' also refers to unlicensed midwives (and nope i
don't want to promote them on the map)

they belong to the alternative medicines/treatments, but also under "health"
(but no doctors, not govt regulated) but can bring relief to special cases.
amenity=clinic
alternative medicine???

what about those chinese herbal stores in binondo and in the malls?

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, ianlopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> +1 for amenity=clinic
>
> @eric: i didn't know the consequences of not "distinguishing" health
> centers from barangay outposts until now. thanks.
>
>
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> --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
> To: "eric pareja" <eric.pareja at gmail.com>
> Cc: "ianlopez" <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com>, "OSM-PH" <
> talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 9:31 PM
>
>
> How about amenity=clinic?
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, eric pareja <eric.pareja at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=eric.pareja@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> hi ian, maning,
>>
>> tagging health centers as public building or doctor's clinic would
>> probably be correct in keeping with generic tagging, but it would be more
>> useful if they are tagged specifically as "health centers". i've been
>> convincing my boss at the national telehealth center, UP Manila, to use
>> openstreetmap.org and this would be a good use case for us.
>>
>> ian, if both health centers and police outposts are tagged as public
>> buildings, how do we differentiate them? there's value in distinguishing the
>> health centers as such, and we'd like to be able to work with that data to
>> help direct patients to the nearest one.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, ianlopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a
>>> doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a
>>> pharmacy. Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building
>>> or as a police station.
>>>
>>> (Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We
>>> could be accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow
>>> some of them to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see
>>> http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/and
>>> http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ )
>>>
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>>> Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you?
>>> Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it.
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>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
>>> To: "osm-ph" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org<http://mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
>>> >
>>> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in
>>> Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police
>>> precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but
>>> separate from other barangay amenities. Nice.
>>> Question: What tag for barangay health centers?  Which is not really a
>>> hospital or doctor/s.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> cheers,
>>> maning
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