[talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem

[Craig]

Hi, everyone.

Thank you for your comments. I do appreciate them all, and I respect you all
for giving them freely. I will, of course, follow OSM guidelines to the
letter, and will in no way jeopardize all of the hard work that has been
done before my very recent arrival. I am, like many, simply frustrated at
how copyright is used at a weapon and how it does, in fact, stifle
creativity and advancements in many areas. You are all aware of this, of
course.

Best to you all,
Craig.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Totor <totor_osm at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> I saw this question several times here and there and can not agree
> completely.
>
> I think that Facts/Locations can not be copyrighted indeed, but maps can.
>
> It takes quite a lot of work to represent the locations of items accurately
> on maps.
> It's much easier to copy from an existing map. (Why would some OSM mappers
> be tempted if this was not the case?) So it seems reasonable to me to
> protect  this work by a copyright.
> When you copy  from a map, even small portions, you don't copy facts, but a
> more or less faithful representation someone else made.
>
> If you copy Google maps, you even copying "someone's imagination" !
> Here Google has several non existing roads on the map :
>
> http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17&lat=10.3468&lon=123.91864&layers=B00000TFFFFF
> Even comparing just the location should not be done, since the map seems
> offset...
>
> The above is also true for the satellite images (although maybe less
> obviously). Several years ago, I saw a duplicate parallel road on the border
> of stitched images (Each of them ending in a blurry house on opposite sides
> at some distance). I was unable to find it now, but I'm sure you'll be able
> to find some artifacts if you look for them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Totor
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 5/16/10, Craig * wrote:
>
>
> From: Craig
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem
> To: "Andre Marcelo-Tanner"
> Cc: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 4:09 AM
>
> Maybe there is something fundamental that I don't get, but, let me ask a
> question, please. How is it possible that a location of a road or building
> or anything can be copyrighted? I understand not copying entire maps, etc.,
> from a source and then claiming it as your own is contrary to copyright, but
> "facts", and a road location is a fact, not something created from someone's
> imagination.
> [...]
>
>
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