[talk-ph] Caviteño: Is Antero Soriano Highway a really major highway?
pompyang at gmail.com
Tue Jun 14 18:51:06 BST 2011
my 2 cents.
me and my friends (from cavite) usually divide the province into two parts,
upland and lowland. upland comprises of imus-dasma-silang-tagaytay-et.al.
and lowland usually are those towns near the manila bay which includes
back in the days in college, we have a provincial organization and every
weekend sabay sabay kame umuwi via public transpo. dalawang grupo pa rin yan
mainly again, those from uplands and lowlands. kasi the two major roads
(cavite-wise) in the province are aguinaldo hiway and that main road from
bacoor-naic (which is Soriano pala)
following rally's analogy, i'd say that hiway is a trunk.
*The Caviteno's can answer the same question: if we cut Soriano Hiway, what
happens to the Cavite province? If Cavite can survive without it (even with
minor or major inconveniences of going around a similar alternate road),
then it's not a trunk road. Or what will happen to the future volume traffic
of CAVITEX if we close Soriano Hway?*
yes cavite and it's people will survive because people from naic and tanza
can simply go around the whole province and use governor's drive then
aguinaldo hiway. but is it practical? before CAVITEX, the only practical way
to go, let say to cavite city, is this hiway.
and imagine for practical uses of gps units. let say im from manila and have
no idea how to go to naic. i want to plan and see the main roads in cavite.
if i zoom out just to see these roads, all i can see are aguinaldo hiway and
governor's drive (which is what we have right now). it wont' be wise for me
to think that to go to naic i should use this trunk roads.
one more thing, if we have a set speed limit for trunk roads, then i say
aguinaldo hiway (from bacoor to imus area) should not be considered trunk.
for months now, maynilad has been digging the main road of cavite allowing
only one lane each direction. imagine the traffic here during rush hour. one
time i went home from manila at 5am and it was traffic the whole stretch
from bacoor to imus with speeds of 10kph or less. swerte ka na kung maka-20
again just my 2 cents
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Rally de Leon <ralleon at gmail.com> wrote:
> the high volume of traffic on Soriano says it's a trunk, but is it true
> that the traffic there is also very slow? If you can rarely reach an the
> average speed 40kmh, then maybe just another busy 'primary city road' that
> connects a few towns & cities. (we can't say the same for Metro Manila to
> qualify for trunk road).
> If you look at it in isolation, Soriano highway is not long enough to
> connect the province from end-to-end or doesn't function like bringing
> traffic from one region/province to another. (unlike Aguinaldo Hway &
> Governor's Drive, which terminate either to another province or to the
> coastline, or crosses provincial boundaries).
> Unless we interpret Soriano Hway as part of series of connected system of
> roads, eg. a continuation of CAVITEX which connects to NCR, or sort of a
> loop that connects back to Governor's Drive. Try zooming out (when all
> primary roads start to disappear, as I see it in a garmin map); it will show
> that Cavitex logically needs a 'provincial road' to terminate to (or to
> connect to...) Then it can be a trunk
> my opinion is 50:50, we go either way (trunk or primary).
> Now consider a tree. If you cut its trunk, everything on top of it will
> die.The trunk serves as the main conduit of water & nutrients from roots to
> all the branches and all the way to the topmost leaves & twigs.
> What will happen to Metro Manila if Guadalupe Bridge (part of EDSA), or
> that bridge in C-5 connecting Pasig to Makati collapse? chaos! goods coming
> from the NLEX or SLEX can't get through. Metro Manila will virtually be
> divided. Or imagine cutting Manila East Road or Ortigas Ave Ext in Rizal, or
> Halsema Highway in the Cordillera? you kill the provincial industries.
> The Caviteno's can answer the same question: if we cut Soriano Hiway, what
> happens to the Cavite province? If Cavite can survive without it (even with
> minor or major inconveniences of going around a similar alternate road),
> then it's not a trunk road. Or what will happen to the future volume traffic
> of CAVITEX if we close Soriano Hway?
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> Any other opinions from other people in Cavite? Ian H., Rem? :-)
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Sorbi Ildefonso <
>> sorbi.ildefonso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I believe it is a major highway. Volume-wise, a lot of vehicles including
>>> three bus lines (Lawton-Naic, Lawton-Ternate, Lawton-Maragondon) use A.
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> A user wants to upgrade Antero Soriano Highway which connects Bacoor
>>>> to Naic from a primary road to a trunk road. I'd like to get the
>>>> opinion if this is a good move.
>>>> For reference, Governor's Drive, which connects Naic to Carmona, and
>>>> Aguinaldo Highway, which connects Bacoor to Tagaytay, are both marked
>>>> as trunk roads already.
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