[Talk-pt] Mapping in Portugal - Some smal questions

[Victor Ferreira]

Hi, let me had that the last three digits in the Postal code usually have
no correlation with administrative areas unfortunately!
The areas are defined regarding the trip of the mail man, so the houses on
one street can some be in a postal code and some in the other.
The ideia is to have some "optimization" of the trips since the mail is
separated by the codes physycally.
Is someone has more details please update :-)
Victor


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Mauro Santos <registo.mailling  gmail.com>wrote:

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> I'd say that the postal code should include the location, the
> wikipedia page says:
> "The Portuguese postal code (código postal) is formed by four digits,
> a hyphen, then three digits, followed by a postal location of up to 25
> characters in capitals."
>
> If one searches for a postal code in the Portuguese post office page,
> which is also linked in the wikipedia page, one gets exactly the
> scheme mentioned (NNNN-NNN LOCATION).
>
> The wikipedia page also says:
> "Note that, although the regions' names are connected the (extinct)
> 1936 provinces of Portugal, their limits (with the exception of
> Algarve) are not exactly the same."
>
> I don't know if this still holds true, also this year there was a
> reorganization of parishes (1), I don't know how that changes the
> relationship between administrative areas to postal codes but I
> suppose that should be taken into account/looked into.
>
> (1) Some parishes were merged and given a new name. That I know of
> there are no more changes planned in the short term, but I don't know
> if we've seen the end of it as the change was somewhat controversial.
>
>
> On 31-08-2013 14:36, f.dos.santos  free.fr wrote:
> >
> > 3. The Postal Code in Portugal are :
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_Portugal
> >
> > The first 4 digit was the old postal code, and the 3 digits
> > following the dash is an even more precise area in this postal
> > code. I don't know all the details and I didn't spend time
> > searching, but I presume that the postal code follow the
> > administrative area in some way, so it seems possible to follow the
> > Karlsruhe schema and only code addr:street and addr:housenumber and
> > deduce the city and postal code from other spatial entity. But we
> > are far from it, we didn't have all the administrative area in OSM,
> > it's a matter I'm currently working on (slowly :-).
> >
> > By the way, for the Karlsruhe schema, I've not seen a prefered way
> > in the community on how to enter address : - using addr:street -
> > using associatedStreet relation
> >
> > Perhaps you have more experience in entering address so we can
> > choose a prefered method for Portugal. As a matter of taste, I
> > prefer not using relation for address and using only addr:street,
> > but that's my personal view ;-)
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema
> >
> >
> >
> > One final question for Nuno José or someone with more pratical
> > knowledge than me, in the example given I'm missing something, in
> > Karlsruhe schema notation we have :
> >
> > addr:housenumber = 18 addr:street = Rua Pé de Mouro addr:postcode =
> > 2714-510 addr:city = Linhó
> >
> > So the Sintra information will be lost ?
> >
> > Francisco
>
> - --
> Mauro Santos
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