[Talk-scotland] Edinburgh - Belgrave Terrace/Clermiston Terrace

Chris Fleming me at chrisfleming.org
Sun Oct 4 22:10:30 UTC 2015

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 at 22:00 Colin Paton <cozzarp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> This is my first posting to this list, so please let me know if I'm
> posting inappropriately! This list seems to have been used mainly for event
> notification - should I post somewhere else for mapping queries?

No problem posting here.

> I had cause to go to Belgrave Terrace in Edinburgh, and noticed it wasn't
> found in the Open Streetmap Nominatim. I had to resort to using another
> popular online map to find my answer!
> The tenements at the bottom of Clermiston Road in Edinburgh are signposted
> "Belgrave Terrace" and the ones further up are signposted "Clermiston
> Terrace". These names aren't shown on the earlier OS maps I looked at, but
> are physically sign posted.
> I tried to fix this in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34436406
> but am not quite sure if I have done this correctly.
> I split Clermiston Road, and added 'alt_name' to the new segments I
> created. This appears to be how the various parts of "Leith Walk" (Croall
> place etc) are added.
> The physical signpost on the road says "Belgrave Terrace" but the City of
> Edinburgh council atlas appears to show the road as Clermiston Road, but
> the tenements as Belgrave Terrace.
> I'm not sure if I've done this correctly - is alt_name correct, or should
> these be the primary name, to match the street signs?

I would suggest that if the street sign (and presumably the address you
were looking for) is Belgrave Terrace then having the primary name as
Belgrave Terrace and Clermiston Road as the alt-name. The situation on the
ground is king.

The only thing to look out for is that often terraces refer to the
buildings, so the buildings on one side of the road may have be part of
"Belgrave Terrace" while the other side of the road may still be considered
as part of Clermiston Road.

> Finally - I really enjoyed being at SOTM and meeting people - many thanks
> to all the hard work of the organisers. It's a shame I missed the events
> today, but as it turns out I was too busy getting lost trying to find
> unmapped streets!
Yes it was great to see you, A massive thank you to Tim and Bob for all the
organising and also to the Sponsors.

Every time I'm blown away by the quality of the speakers.

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