[Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK

Čet Nov 3 18:11:16 UTC 2022

What's the procedure here? How do we report this?

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 17:59 martianfreeloader <martianfreeloader na posteo.net>
wrote:

> Another inappropriate changeset comment from just yesterday:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452
>
>
> On 03/11/2022 17:17, Igor Brejc wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Even if nothing else, he should be reported for that insulting comment
> > on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>, this isn't just
> > vandalism, but pure abusive behavior.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Igor
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM martianfreeloader
> > <martianfreeloader na posteo.net <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     I think the account 4KK should be reported for vandalism.
> >
> >     TLDR:
> >     - 4KK destroys the map.
> >     - When confronted with their behaviour, they either don't reply at
> all
> >     or in an insulting way.
> >
> >
> >     Long version:
> >
> >     History of 4KK:
> >     - The account was created in 2017.
> >     - Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022
> >
> >     A list of the changesets that have been discussed by other users:
> >     https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
> >     <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
> >
> >
> >     Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
> >     - 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users (since April
> 2022)
> >     - All 11 changesets have been critized by other mappers as seriously
> >     and
> >     clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but nothing off the
> >     spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)
> >
> >     4KK's reaction:
> >     - To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
> >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but nonconstructive way:
> >     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>
> >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and nothing substantial:
> >     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
> >     (I think that this incident alone would already justify deletion of
> the
> >     account)
> >
> >
> >     I did not check the actual mapping content of these changesets, so I
> >     can't tell whether all the other mappers were always right with their
> >     criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly drawn criticism by
> >     various users, I assume they are right.
> >
> >     Personally, I had one instance myself where I discovered that 4KK
> >     mapped
> >     a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits go to
> >     scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the time because I
> >     didn't see the broader picture.
> >
> >     Best,
> >     m
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
> >      > Živjo,
> >      >
> >      > ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj). Sam sem najprej
> >     opazil relacijo "Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”, kjer je vrisal
> >     “proposed” cesto od razcepa Malence naprej, kot vir pa navedel
> >     novico iz leta 2015. Gre samo za neko staro idejo, ki se je takrat
> >     pojavila, ampak je vsaj na začetnem delu nerealistična in se o njej
> >     sploh ne govori več. Bila je idejna zasnova, sploh ne nekaj
> >     načrtovanega, in kot taka zadeva po mojem nima kaj iskati v OSM.
> >     Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak risal neke idejne zasnove?
> >      >
> >      > Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss septembra),
> >     komentarja z njegove strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje sporočilo
> >     direktno njemu ni odgovoril.
> >      >
> >      > Lep pozdrav,
> >      > Miha
> >      >
> >      >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl <damjan na damjan.net
> >     <mailto:damjan na damjan.net>> wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >> Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da bo tam "javno"
> >     odgovoril (če bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako odgovori. In lahko
> >     dobi tudi več odgovorov drugih osm-erjev.
> >      >>
> >      >> Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz osm-boarda opomnijo
> >     ali začasno blokirajo, če je potrebno.
> >      >>
> >      >> LP,
> >      >> Damjan
> >      >>
> >      >>  From "Blaž Lorger" blaz.lorger na krs.net <mailto:
> blaz.lorger na krs.net>
> >      >> To talk-si na openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-si na openstreetmap.org>
> >      >> Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
> >      >> Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh uporabnik 4KK
> >     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
> >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>) naredil več sprememb na
> >     področju Slovenije.
> >      >> Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
> >      >> Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je spremenil tudi
> >     precej relacij. Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere izmed teh
> >     relacij zdaj nepravilne. Kot na primer ta turn restriction
> >     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
> >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>). Zdaj je
> >     legalno narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.
> >      >>
> >      >> Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno odgovoril da tega
> >     ne namerava storiti.
> >      >> Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.
> >      >>
> >      >> Pozdrav,
> >      >>    Blaž
> >      >>
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