[Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK

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We can report to data, “ат”openstreetmap.org for vandalism and report 
the user in a separate section. We should take all the below evidence 
and forward it to the mentioned email. *
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On 03/11/2022 19:11, Igor Brejc wrote:
> What's the procedure here? How do we report this?
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 17:59 martianfreeloader 
> <martianfreeloader na posteo.net> wrote:
>
>     Another inappropriate changeset comment from just yesterday:
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452
>
>
>     On 03/11/2022 17:17, Igor Brejc wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > Even if nothing else, he should be reported for that insulting
>     comment
>     > on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
>     > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>, this isn't
>     just
>     > vandalism, but pure abusive behavior.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     > Igor
>     >
>     > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM martianfreeloader
>     > <martianfreeloader na posteo.net
>     <mailto:martianfreeloader na posteo.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi,
>     >
>     >     I think the account 4KK should be reported for vandalism.
>     >
>     >     TLDR:
>     >     - 4KK destroys the map.
>     >     - When confronted with their behaviour, they either don't
>     reply at all
>     >     or in an insulting way.
>     >
>     >
>     >     Long version:
>     >
>     >     History of 4KK:
>     >     - The account was created in 2017.
>     >     - Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022
>     >
>     >     A list of the changesets that have been discussed by other
>     users:
>     > https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
>     >   
>      <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480>
>     >
>     >     Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
>     >     - 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users (since
>     April 2022)
>     >     - All 11 changesets have been critized by other mappers as
>     seriously
>     >     and
>     >     clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but nothing
>     off the
>     >     spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)
>     >
>     >     4KK's reaction:
>     >     - To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
>     >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but
>     nonconstructive way:
>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>
>     >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and nothing
>     substantial:
>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
>     >     (I think that this incident alone would already justify
>     deletion of the
>     >     account)
>     >
>     >
>     >     I did not check the actual mapping content of these
>     changesets, so I
>     >     can't tell whether all the other mappers were always right
>     with their
>     >     criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly drawn
>     criticism by
>     >     various users, I assume they are right.
>     >
>     >     Personally, I had one instance myself where I discovered
>     that 4KK
>     >     mapped
>     >     a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits go to
>     >     scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the time
>     because I
>     >     didn't see the broader picture.
>     >
>     >     Best,
>     >     m
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
>     >      > Živjo,
>     >      >
>     >      > ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj). Sam sem
>     najprej
>     >     opazil relacijo "Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”, kjer je
>     vrisal
>     >     “proposed” cesto od razcepa Malence naprej, kot vir pa navedel
>     >     novico iz leta 2015. Gre samo za neko staro idejo, ki se je
>     takrat
>     >     pojavila, ampak je vsaj na začetnem delu nerealistična in se
>     o njej
>     >     sploh ne govori več. Bila je idejna zasnova, sploh ne nekaj
>     >     načrtovanega, in kot taka zadeva po mojem nima kaj iskati v OSM.
>     >     Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak risal neke idejne zasnove?
>     >      >
>     >      > Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss septembra),
>     >     komentarja z njegove strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje sporočilo
>     >     direktno njemu ni odgovoril.
>     >      >
>     >      > Lep pozdrav,
>     >      > Miha
>     >      >
>     >      >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl <damjan na damjan.net
>     >     <mailto:damjan na damjan.net>> wrote:
>     >      >>
>     >      >> Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da bo tam
>     "javno"
>     >     odgovoril (če bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako odgovori. In
>     lahko
>     >     dobi tudi več odgovorov drugih osm-erjev.
>     >      >>
>     >      >> Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz osm-boarda
>     opomnijo
>     >     ali začasno blokirajo, če je potrebno.
>     >      >>
>     >      >> LP,
>     >      >> Damjan
>     >      >>
>     >      >>  From "Blaž Lorger" blaz.lorger na krs.net
>     <mailto:blaz.lorger na krs.net>
>     >      >> To talk-si na openstreetmap.org
>     <mailto:talk-si na openstreetmap.org>
>     >      >> Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
>     >      >> Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
>     >      >>
>     >      >>
>     >      >> Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh uporabnik 4KK
>     >     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>) naredil več
>     sprememb na
>     >     področju Slovenije.
>     >      >> Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
>     >      >> Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je
>     spremenil tudi
>     >     precej relacij. Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere izmed teh
>     >     relacij zdaj nepravilne. Kot na primer ta turn restriction
>     >     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>).
>     Zdaj je
>     >     legalno narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.
>     >      >>
>     >      >> Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno odgovoril
>     da tega
>     >     ne namerava storiti.
>     >      >> Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.
>     >      >>
>     >      >> Pozdrav,
>     >      >>    Blaž
>     >      >>
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