[Talk-transit] Naptan import stop tagging (was: Proposed changes to oxomoa schema [part 2: stops])

Claudius Henrichs claudius.h at gmx.de
Tue Jun 29 09:59:39 BST 2010


One question on the Naptan import: Did you use any tags from the 
public_transport therefore? Or are these all highway=bus_stop?
Would be a great chance to increase coverage of the more detailed 
public_transport=platform
Claudius

Am 29.06.2010 02:07, Shaun McDonald:
> In the UK as part of the Naptan import we already have decided that 
> bus stops must be marked exactly where they are on the ground and 
> added to the route relation of the bus route.
>
> Shaun
>
> On 28 Jun 2010, at 19:07, Michał Borsuk wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody again:
>>
>> This time I'd like to propose a smaller change, but this one may 
>> break compatibility with oxomoa - it has been, however, already 
>> commonly implemented.
>>
>> *ISSUE RAISED:
>> * map bus stops to their physical location, not a point on the 
>> route/street
>> *
>> Present status: If I understand correctly, oxomoa suggests that the 
>> bus stop data (name, unique number, etc.) be entered as properties of 
>> a point on the route/street.
>>
>> Problems :
>> * Lines often have stops that are quite far apart for each direction
>> * This prohibits proper routing (GPS + walking),
>> * this system is not very intuitive I find.
>>
>> *Proposed change: bus stops to be mapped exactly to where they are, 
>> and to be added to relations *
>>
>> Result:
>> * better routing results e.g. one wants to find a correct way to the 
>> bus stop, and not to the average point somewhere between two stops of 
>> the same name in either direction.
>> * more intuitive system -> easier "learning curve" for new users.
>>
>> Influence on possible future software solutions: minor. May require 
>> all the stops on the route to be ordered based on their geographical 
>> location, as opposed to their place on the route (the latter is easier).
>>
>> Comments: I have seen this system very often implemented - two bus 
>> stops on each side, so my suggestion is just to codify the situation 
>> for future editors.
>>
>> Hope this is not too much at once, for more is to follow.
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards, mit freundlichen Grüssen, meilleurs sentiments, 
>> Pozdrowienia,
>>
>> Michał Borsuk
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