[Talk-TW] Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24

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>    1. Fwd: Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23 (???)
>    2. Re: OSM Taiwan ???? (Rex Tsai)
>    3. Re: ???????????tag (Dennis Raylin Chen)
>    4. [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (???)
>    5. Re: [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (Arne Goetje)
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> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:07:55 +0800
> Subject: [Talk-TW] Fwd: Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23
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> From: Rex Tsai <chihchunæ–¼kalug.linux.org.tw>
> To: Louis Liu <pttdogæ–¼gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Taiwan <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:39:08 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] OSM Taiwan µÄÏÂÒ»²½
> ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç1:52£¬Louis Liu <pttdogæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
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> > Ä¿Ç°µÄ renderer Æ䌍¶¼ÓÐücÑ}ës£¬»òÔSÖ§Ô® NGO ºÍÆäËû½K¶ËʹÓÃÕß®aÉúˆD?
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> ¸½×h³ÉÁ¢¼¼ÐgС½M¡£(Rex ÊÇ×îÐèÒª±»ŽÍæµÄÈË :p)
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> ---------- ÞD¼ÄӍϢ ----------
> From: Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009æ–¼gmail.com>
> To: deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
> Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:23:02 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] ¸úÈËÉú×îááÒ»Àï·ÓÐêPµÄtag
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> 2013/2/26 deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
>
>> >> ÏÈÇ°Ò²ÅcÉϹÙÓ‘Õ“µ½ì`¹ÇËþµÄtag
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
>>
>> crematorium ÊÇÖ¸»ðÔáˆö£¬ºÍì`¹ÇËþÍêÈ«²»Ò»˜Ó¡£¶øì`¹ÇËþ¾ÍÊÇĹˆ@£¬Ö»ÊÇbuilding ÐÍ‘B¡£
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>> >> ²»ß^ÎÒÓЂ€ÒɆ–£º×öĹµØ¹¤³ÌµÄ¿É²»¿ÉÒÔÓÃß@‚€tag?
>> ²»¶®ß@ÊÇʲüN£¿×öĹµØ¹¤³ÌµÄ¡°Ê²üN¡±£¬Èˆ᣿ ÍÁ¹«×У¿
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>> local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc
>> ÈÕ±¾Ò²ÓÐß@˜ÓµÄ†–î}
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
>>
>> ÔS¶àtag ºĮ́ž³ÓÐêP£¬¿ÉÒÔÖ±½ÓÓá£
>>
>> Ìá‚€½¨×h£¬´ó¼ÒÊÇ·ñ°ÑÙYÁϼ¯ºÏµ½padÉÏ
>> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>>
>> ´ýÍêÕûÁË£¬ÔÙ·ÅÉÏOSM wiki£¬ß€ÊÇ׌wikißBß@‚€í“Ãæ¡£
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>> £¼ÎÂȪ£¾
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>> ÎÂȪ¡¢Ô´Èª£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>> leisure=hot_spring
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>>
>> ÎÂȪÂÃð^
>> amenity=guest_house
>> hot_spring=yes
>>
>> ÎÂȪ…^¡¢ÎÂȪ½Ö
>> place=suburb
>> hot_spring=yes
>> name=±±Í¶ÎÂȪ
>>
>>
>>
>> ²Êȯµê
>> amenity=gambling (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
>> gambling=lottery (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
>>
>> °ØÇà¸çµê
>> amenity=gambling £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>> gambling=pachinko £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>>
>> ™‰ÀƵê (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
>> shop=deli
>> production=betel nuts
>>
>> ÅÝ›i¼t²è (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
>> shop=beverages
>> name=***
>>
>> ¿¨À²OKµê£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>> amenity=karaoke_box
>>
>> ëŠ×Óß[˜·ˆö
>> amenity=video_arcade
>>
>> Ã׵꣨Ìá°¸™zÓ‘ÖУ©
>> shop=rice
>>
>> ×Ô„ÓÄëÃ׈ö
>> amenity=vending_machine
>> vending=rice_polishing
>>
>> ‘ôÍâÎüŸŸ…^
>> smoking:outside=yes
>>
>> ·߅ͣ܇
>> parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>>
>>
>>
>> dongpo
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > ½èһϘËî}£¬·ÆÂÉÙeµÄÅóÓÑÓÐÕûÀíÒ»‚€í“Ãæ·ÖéT„eîÕûÀí³£ÒŠµÄ POIs
>> >
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
>> >
>> > ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÉÏÎç9:21£¬Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009æ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
>> >> Hi Mappers
>> >>
>> >> ¿ÉÄÜ´ó¼Ò¶¼ºÜÊìϤȦĹˆ@¡¢Ä¹µØÏàêPµÄtag
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery
>> >>
>> >> ÏÈÇ°Ò²ÅcÉϹÙÓ‘Õ“µ½ì`¹ÇËþµÄtag
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
>> >>
>> >> ²»ß^¿ÉÄܲ»ÖªµÀ¡¸¶Yƒx¹«Ë¾¡¹µÄtag
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
>> >>
>> >> ²»ß^ÎÒÓЂ€ÒɆ–£º×öĹµØ¹¤³ÌµÄ¿É²»¿ÉÒÔÓÃß@‚€tag?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Supaplex/Dennis
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> > --
>> > Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di | http://www.mcdlee.tw
>> > _______________________________________________
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> ---------- ÞD¼ÄӍϢ ----------
> From: "Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di" <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com>
> To: deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
> Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:38:28 +0800
> Subject: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
> ÖØé_Ò»‚€˜Ëî}
>
> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>
> ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç5:09£¬deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
> > local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc
> > ÈÕ±¾Ò²ÓÐß@˜ÓµÄ†–î}
> >
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
> > ÔS¶àtag ºĮ́ž³ÓÐêP£¬¿ÉÒÔÖ±½ÓÓá£
> >
> > Ìá‚€½¨×h£¬´ó¼ÒÊÇ·ñ°ÑÙYÁϼ¯ºÏµ½padÉÏ
> > http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
> >
> > ´ýÍêÕûÁË£¬ÔÙ·ÅÉÏOSM wiki£¬ß€ÊÇ׌wikißBß@‚€í“Ãæ¡£
> >
> > £¼ÎÂȪ£¾
> >
> > ÎÂȪ¡¢Ô´Èª£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> > leisure=hot_spring
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
> >
> > ÎÂȪÂÃð^
> > amenity=guest_house
> > hot_spring=yes
> >
> > ÎÂȪ…^¡¢ÎÂȪ½Ö
> > place=suburb
> > hot_spring=yes
> > name=±±Í¶ÎÂȪ
> >
> >
> >
> > ²Êȯµê
> > amenity=gambling (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
> > gambling=lottery (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
> >
> > °ØÇà¸çµê
> > amenity=gambling £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> > gambling=pachinko £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> >
> > ™‰ÀƵê (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
> > shop=deli
> > production=betel nuts
> >
> > ÅÝ›i¼t²è (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
> > shop=beverages
> > name=***
> >
> > ¿¨À²OKµê£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> > amenity=karaoke_box
> >
> > ëŠ×Óß[˜·ˆö
> > amenity=video_arcade
> >
> > Ã׵꣨Ìá°¸™zÓ‘ÖУ©
> > shop=rice
> >
> > ×Ô„ÓÄëÃ׈ö
> > amenity=vending_machine
> > vending=rice_polishing
> >
> > ‘ôÍâÎüŸŸ…^
> > smoking:outside=yes
> >
> > ·߅ͣ܇
> > parking:lane:both=left/right/both
> >
> >
> >
> > dongpo
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> ½èһϘËî}£¬·ÆÂÉÙeµÄÅóÓÑÓÐÕûÀíÒ»‚€í“Ãæ·ÖéT„eîÕûÀí³£ÒŠµÄ POIs
> >>
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
>
> --
> Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di | http://www.mcdlee.tw
>
>
> ---------- ÞD¼ÄӍϢ ----------
> From: Arne Goetje <arne.goetjeæ–¼gmail.com>
> To: talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:12 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
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> On 02/27/2013 01:38 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di wrote:
> > ÖØé_Ò»‚€˜Ëî}
> >
> > http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
> >
> > ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç5:09£¬deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
> >> local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc ÈÕ±¾Ò²ÓÐß@˜ÓµÄ†–î}
> >>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
> >>
> >>
> ÔS¶àtag ºĮ́ž³ÓÐêP£¬¿ÉÒÔÖ±½ÓÓá£
> >>
> >> Ìá‚€½¨×h£¬´ó¼ÒÊÇ·ñ°ÑÙYÁϼ¯ºÏµ½padÉÏ
> >> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
> >>
> >> ´ýÍêÕûÁË£¬ÔÙ·ÅÉÏOSM wiki£¬ß€ÊÇ׌wikißBß@‚€í“Ãæ¡£
> >>
> >> £¼ÎÂȪ£¾
> >>
> >> ÎÂȪ¡¢Ô´Èª£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© leisure=hot_spring
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>
> I added this long time ago, but didn't follow up. Sorry.
> Question would be: how to tag commercial hot springs and wild hot
> springs respectively? Commercial hot springs are generally like
> swimming pools with private tubs, while wild hot springs are not.
>
> So maybe use natural=hot_spring for wild ones and
> amenity=guest_house, hot_spring=yes for commercial ones.
> leisure=hot_spring can maybe refer to public hot springs, which are
> like pools, but free of charge and without guest houses. (Those are
> rare nowadays).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> >>
> >> ÎÂȪÂÃð^ amenity=guest_house hot_spring=yes
> >>
> >> ÎÂȪ…^¡¢ÎÂȪ½Ö place=suburb hot_spring=yes name=±±Í¶ÎÂȪ
>
> Why do we need this? Rather tag the hot spring locations individually,
> not in the area.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> ²Êȯµê amenity=gambling (Ìá°¸ÖÐ) gambling=lottery (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
> >>
> >> °ØÇà¸çµê amenity=gambling £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© gambling=pachinko £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> >>
> >> ™‰ÀƵê (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£© shop=deli production=betel nuts
>
> Are betel nuts a delicacy nowadays? ;)
> I would rather classify them as road stands, since you can also buy
> drinks and cigarettes there, not only betel nuts.
>
> >>
> >> ÅÝ›i¼t²è (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£© shop=beverages name=***
>
> add beverages={tea, coffee, soft_drinks, juice, mixed,
> {tea|coffee|juice}_blends, ...}
> separate multiple values by semicolon.
>
> Example:
> shop=beverages
> name=Coco ´óÅdµê
> operator=Coco (or whatever the official name of that company is)
> beverages=tea_blends;coffee_blends;juice;mixed
>
> >>
> >> ¿¨À²OKµê£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© amenity=karaoke_box
> >>
> >> ëŠ×Óß[˜·ˆö amenity=video_arcade
> >>
> >> Ã׵꣨Ìá°¸™zÓ‘ÖУ© shop=rice
> >>
> >> ×Ô„ÓÄëÃ׈ö amenity=vending_machine vending=rice_polishing
> >>
> >> ‘ôÍâÎüŸŸ…^ smoking:outside=yes
>
> Isn't smoking only banned inside buildings? That would make the tag
> obsolete, no? Smoking is still allowed outside anywhere, isn't it?
>
> >>
> >> ·߅ͣ܇ parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>
> Aren't there tags available for parking lanes already? Mark them
> individually alongside the road.
>
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