[Talk-TW] Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 24
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1. Fwd: Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23 (???)
2. Re: OSM Taiwan ???? (Rex Tsai)
3. Re: ???????????tag (Dennis Raylin Chen)
4. [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (???)
5. Re: [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (Arne Goetje)
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From: Rex Tsai <chihchunæ–¼kalug.linux.org.tw>
To: Louis Liu <pttdogæ–¼gmail.com>
Cc: OSM Taiwan <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:39:08 +0800
Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] OSM Taiwan µÄÏÂÒ»²½
ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç1:52£¬Louis Liu <pttdogæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
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> Ä¿Ç°µÄ renderer Æ䌶¼ÓÐücÑ}ës£¬»òÔSÖ§Ô® NGO ºÍÆäËû½K¶ËʹÓÃÕß®aÉúˆD?
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From: Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009æ–¼gmail.com>
To: deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:23:02 +0800
Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] ¸úÈËÉú×îááÒ»Àï·ÓÐêPµÄtag
2013/2/26 deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
>> ÏÈÇ°Ò²ÅcÉϹÙÓ‘Õ“µ½ì`¹ÇËþµÄtag
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
crematorium ÊÇÖ¸»ðÔáˆö£¬ºÍì`¹ÇËþÍêÈ«²»Ò»˜Ó¡£¶øì`¹ÇËþ¾ÍÊÇĹˆ@£¬Ö»ÊÇbuilding ÐÍ‘B¡£
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local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com> wrote:
> ½èһϘËî}£¬·ÆÂÉÙeµÄÅóÓÑÓÐÕûÀíÒ»‚€í“Ãæ·ÖéT„eîÕûÀí³£ÒŠµÄ POIs
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
>
> ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÉÏÎç9:21£¬Dennis Raylin Chen <b92612009æ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
>> Hi Mappers
>>
>> ¿ÉÄÜ´ó¼Ò¶¼ºÜÊìϤȦĹˆ@¡¢Ä¹µØÏàêPµÄtag
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery
>>
>> ÏÈÇ°Ò²ÅcÉϹÙÓ‘Õ“µ½ì`¹ÇËþµÄtag
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium
>>
>> ²»ß^¿ÉÄܲ»ÖªµÀ¡¸¶Yƒx¹«Ë¾¡¹µÄtag
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors
>>
>> ²»ß^ÎÒÓЂ€ÒɆ–£º×öĹµØ¹¤³ÌµÄ¿É²»¿ÉÒÔÓÃß@‚€tag?
>>
>>
>> Supaplex/Dennis
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From: "Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di" <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com>
To: deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com>
Cc: "OSM.TW" <talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:38:28 +0800
Subject: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
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http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç5:09£¬deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
> local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc
> ÈÕ±¾Ò²ÓÐß@˜ÓµÄ†–î}
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
> ÔS¶àtag ºĮ́ž³ÓÐêP£¬¿ÉÒÔÖ±½ÓÓá£
>
> Ìá‚€½¨×h£¬´ó¼ÒÊÇ·ñ°ÑÙYÁϼ¯ºÏµ½padÉÏ
> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>
> ´ýÍêÕûÁË£¬ÔÙ·ÅÉÏOSM wiki£¬ß€ÊÇ׌wikißBß@‚€í“Ãæ¡£
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> £¼ÎÂȪ£¾
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> ÎÂȪ¡¢Ô´Èª£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> leisure=hot_spring
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
>
> ÎÂȪÂÃð^
> amenity=guest_house
> hot_spring=yes
>
> ÎÂȪ…^¡¢ÎÂȪ½Ö
> place=suburb
> hot_spring=yes
> name=±±Í¶ÎÂȪ
>
>
>
> ²Êȯµê
> amenity=gambling (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
> gambling=lottery (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
>
> °ØÇà¸çµê
> amenity=gambling £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> gambling=pachinko £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>
> ™‰ÀƵê (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
> shop=deli
> production=betel nuts
>
> ÅÝ›i¼t²è (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£©
> shop=beverages
> name=***
>
> ¿¨À²OKµê£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
> amenity=karaoke_box
>
> ëŠ×Óß[˜·ˆö
> amenity=video_arcade
>
> Ã׵꣨Ìá°¸™zÓ‘ÖУ©
> shop=rice
>
> ×Ô„ÓÄëÃ׈ö
> amenity=vending_machine
> vending=rice_polishing
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> ‘ôÍâÎüŸŸ…^
> smoking:outside=yes
>
> ·߅ͣ܇
> parking:lane:both=left/right/both
>
>
>
> dongpo
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di <mcdleeæ–¼gmail.com> wrote:
>> ½èһϘËî}£¬·ÆÂÉÙeµÄÅóÓÑÓÐÕûÀíÒ»‚€í“Ãæ·ÖéT„eîÕûÀí³£ÒŠµÄ POIs
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions
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From: Arne Goetje <arne.goetjeæ–¼gmail.com>
To: talk-twæ–¼openstreetmap.org
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:12 +0800
Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local tags
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On 02/27/2013 01:38 PM, Àîê¿µÏ Lee, Sin-di wrote:
> ÖØé_Ò»‚€˜Ëî}
>
> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>
> ÔÚ 2013Äê2ÔÂ26ÈÕÏÂÎç5:09£¬deng dongpo <dongpo.dengæ–¼gmail.com> Œ‘µÀ£º
>> local tag Ò»Ö±ÊÇÓ‘Õ“µÄÖØüc ÈÕ±¾Ò²ÓÐß@˜ÓµÄ†–î}
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html
>>
>>
ÔS¶àtag ºĮ́ž³ÓÐêP£¬¿ÉÒÔÖ±½ÓÓá£
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>> Ìá‚€½¨×h£¬´ó¼ÒÊÇ·ñ°ÑÙYÁϼ¯ºÏµ½padÉÏ
>> http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags
>>
>> ´ýÍêÕûÁË£¬ÔÙ·ÅÉÏOSM wiki£¬ß€ÊÇ׌wikißBß@‚€í“Ãæ¡£
>>
>> £¼ÎÂȪ£¾
>>
>> ÎÂȪ¡¢Ô´Èª£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© leisure=hot_spring
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring
I added this long time ago, but didn't follow up. Sorry.
Question would be: how to tag commercial hot springs and wild hot
springs respectively? Commercial hot springs are generally like
swimming pools with private tubs, while wild hot springs are not.
So maybe use natural=hot_spring for wild ones and
amenity=guest_house, hot_spring=yes for commercial ones.
leisure=hot_spring can maybe refer to public hot springs, which are
like pools, but free of charge and without guest houses. (Those are
rare nowadays).
Thoughts?
>>
>> ÎÂȪÂÃð^ amenity=guest_house hot_spring=yes
>>
>> ÎÂȪ…^¡¢ÎÂȪ½Ö place=suburb hot_spring=yes name=±±Í¶ÎÂȪ
Why do we need this? Rather tag the hot spring locations individually,
not in the area.
>>
>>
>> ²Êȯµê amenity=gambling (Ìá°¸ÖÐ) gambling=lottery (Ìá°¸ÖÐ)
>>
>> °ØÇà¸çµê amenity=gambling £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© gambling=pachinko £¨Ìá°¸ÖУ©
>>
>> ™‰ÀƵê (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£© shop=deli production=betel nuts
Are betel nuts a delicacy nowadays? ;)
I would rather classify them as road stands, since you can also buy
drinks and cigarettes there, not only betel nuts.
>>
>> ÅÝ›i¼t²è (½¨×hÓ÷¨£¬ÐèÔÙ´_ÕJ£© shop=beverages name=***
add beverages={tea, coffee, soft_drinks, juice, mixed,
{tea|coffee|juice}_blends, ...}
separate multiple values by semicolon.
Example:
shop=beverages
name=Coco ´óÅdµê
operator=Coco (or whatever the official name of that company is)
beverages=tea_blends;coffee_blends;juice;mixed
>>
>> ¿¨À²OKµê£¨Ìá°¸ÖУ© amenity=karaoke_box
>>
>> ëŠ×Óß[˜·ˆö amenity=video_arcade
>>
>> Ã׵꣨Ìá°¸™zÓ‘ÖУ© shop=rice
>>
>> ×Ô„ÓÄëÃ׈ö amenity=vending_machine vending=rice_polishing
>>
>> ‘ôÍâÎüŸŸ…^ smoking:outside=yes
Isn't smoking only banned inside buildings? That would make the tag
obsolete, no? Smoking is still allowed outside anywhere, isn't it?
>>
>> ·߅ͣ܇ parking:lane:both=left/right/both
Aren't there tags available for parking lanes already? Mark them
individually alongside the road.
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