[Talk-us-massachusetts] Talk-us-massachusetts Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5

Sat Jul 14 15:51:40 UTC 2018

My thoughts on this are that this is something we need to do to make OSM truly useful. Adding addresses in by hand is a bandaid fix because we don't have that data already. Unfortunately, I don't have any feedback on technical ways to do this correctly, but I wanted to express my +1 to doing this.

As far as which building on a parcel to tag, is there a way to make it the larger one? That may cover the majority of circumstances, and any further edits would be corrections for where the address actually is.

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On Jul 13, 2018, 08:29, Yury Yatsynovich wrote:

> Greetings!
> It was me who started the topic on importing MA addresses on the forum. Originally from Belarus, I'm currently residing in Malden, MA (so, might be considered somewhat local:)).
> I've contacted MassGIS about the possibility to import address points from their data to OSM and received their permission (as I mentioned in the thread on the forum).
> Best, Yury
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 8:01 AM <talk-us-massachusetts-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Importing MA Address from MassGIS (Greg Troxel)
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>>    4. Re: Importing MA Address from MassGIS (Greg Troxel)
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:54:58 -0400
>> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
>> To: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
>> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
>> Message-ID: <smu7em0ftjh.fsf at linuxpal.mit.edu>
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>> Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are
>> local, and if they are knoww on the list?  I thought that the talk-us@
>> email group was mandatory for US imports.
>>
>> Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something
>> ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM
>> use.  Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:56:57 -0400
>> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
>> To: "Alan & Ruth Bragg" <alan.ruth.bragg at gmail.com>
>> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
>> Message-ID: <smu36woftg6.fsf at linuxpal.mit.edu>
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>> So I see this is just someone asking, not a real proposal.
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>> It might be just as well for someone who uses forums to point them to
>> this list, and to caution them that imports are hard and this one is
>> going to be particularly hard...
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:03:58 -0400
>> From: Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com>
>> To: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>,  OSM Massachusetts
>>         <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
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>> Hi Greg,
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>> https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding
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>> It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.
>>
>> https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/
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>> OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to import
>> it.
>>
>> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are
>>> local, and if they are knoww on the list?  I thought that the talk-us@
>>> email group was mandatory for US imports.
>>>
>>> Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something
>>> ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM
>>> use.  Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-massachusetts
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:07:16 -0400
>> From: Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>
>> To: Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com>
>> Cc: OSM Massachusetts <talk-us-massachusetts at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us-massachusetts] Importing MA Address from MassGIS
>> Message-ID: <smupnzseeej.fsf at linuxpal.mit.edu>
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>> Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com> writes:
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>>> https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding
>>>
>>> It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.
>>>
>>> https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/
>>>
>>> OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to import
>>> it.
>>>
>>> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
>>
>> Thanks - that's great news.   It used to be cc-by-sa.   They don't seem
>> to point to a version, so I guess that means the latest.  Certainly
>> asking if it's ok is easy enough, should we get to the point where we
>> are serious.
>>
>> Long-term, I would love to see us import the addresses.  That's a big
>> job, in terms of avoiding existing data and conflation to our buildings
>> (but they've done some of that) and I may eventually have time to help.
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