[Talk-us] Fwd: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap?

SteveC steve at asklater.com
Wed Dec 15 07:33:47 GMT 2010



Steve

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> From: Michal Migurski <mike at stamen.com>
> Date: December 14, 2010 11:14:19 PM PST
> To: SteveC <steve at asklater.com>
> Subject: Re: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap?
> 

> I told him I'd pass the word along, there's nothing in there that seems like a risk to me - go for it!
> 
> -mike.
> 
> On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:24 PM, SteveC wrote:
> 
>> Can this go to the list etc?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Michal Migurski <mike at stamen.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI.
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Thomas Long <Thomas.Long at sfgov.org>
>>>> Date: December 14, 2010 2:27:07 PM PST
>>>> To: "Nath, Jay" <jay.nath at sfgov.org>
>>>> Cc: Michal Migurski <mike at stamen.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap?
>>>> 
>>>> Jay and Michal, 
>>>> Generally, our terms and conditions are not intended to place restrictions on the use of the data, but rather to gain the user's agreement that there are no warranties etc regarding the data, that the City's liability is limited and the user indemnifies us for any claims arising from the user's use of the data.  The exception would be if our website expressly states that there are other conditions/restrictions on the use of the data in question (such as when we obtain data from a 3d party that restricts our use of the data.)  I have not read the specific CC license Michal refers to, but I don't think there would be a conflict unless the CC license is contrary to the City's disclaimer/limitation of liability/indemnity language.  I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have other questions. 
>>>> Tom 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Long
>>>> Deputy City Attorney
>>>> Office of City Attorney Dennis J. Herrera
>>>> City Hall, Room 234
>>>> San Francisco, CA 94102
>>>> Tel: (415) 554-6548
>>>> Fax: (415) 554-4763
>>>> thomas.long at sfgov.org
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From:        "Nath, Jay" <jay.nath at sfgov.org> 
>>>> To:        Michal Migurski <mike at stamen.com>, "Long, Thomas" <thomas.long at sfgov.org> 
>>>> Date:        12/13/2010 10:11 AM 
>>>> Subject:        RE: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm copying in Thomas Long. We did speak with a member of OSM a few months ago on a similar topic.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Michal Migurski [mailto:mike at stamen.com] 
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:59 AM
>>>> To: Nath, Jay
>>>> Subject: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jay,
>>>> 
>>>> Happy Monday!
>>>> 
>>>> A member of the OpenStreetMap community is interested in importing some of the data from DataSF into OSM, and he's looking at this clickthrough license:
>>>>                http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp
>>>> 
>>>> They're wondering if the license is compatible with the CC-BY-SA & ODBL licenses that the project uses? That is to say, can the data be freely imported into a database under those terms, the same way that the project has already imported data from the U.S. Census TIGER road network, Massachusetts GIS, Arkansas, and other government entities over the past few years?
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry if this question is completely outside of your area of expertise, figured you might know who to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> -mike.
>>>> 
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>>>> michal migurski- mike at stamen.com
>>>>                415.558.1610
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