[Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

Ian Dees ian.dees at gmail.com
Fri Oct 29 20:30:17 BST 2010


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II <neroute2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II <neroute2 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Val Kartchner <val42k at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 15:17 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Val Kartchner <val42k at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Sorry to disappoint, but the 17x17 example that you gave is quite
> >> >> > readable.
> >> >> Not nearly as readable as a lone 7.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I've attached another 17x17 that is also readable. Since
> >> >> > readability at 17x17 is demonstrably not an issue, what is your
> real
> >> >> > objection to route-specific shields?
> >> >> Clutter and legibility.
> >> >
> >> > Nathan,
> >> >
> >> > So, your problem is not the size of the shields but the route-type
> >> > specific shields themselves?
> >>
> >> It was never the size, but the way the specific shields cram more into
> >> the same area.
> >
> > This happens because all of the renderers currently use ways to determine
> > where to place shields. When we switch over to using route relations (and
> > the geometry is very long) Mapnik can be much smarter about where and how
> > often to place shields.
>
> I'm not talking about shield placement. I mean that the specific
> shield designs themselves are often cluttered. In certain states that
> have multiple systems (Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee) it may make
> sense to use a simplified version of the shields (although all of
> these but Tennessee's primary are already as simple as possible), but
> there's no reason except prettiness to prefer the Colorado shield over
> a simpler rectangle.
>

Oh, right. At least in the rendering I'm planning on eventually doing I
won't use state/county-specific shields. I'll probably go with the regular
white shield and ovals. Too much shield differentiation makes stuff
cluttered.
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