[Talk-us] Marion and Lane County, Oregon county roads

[Dion Dock]

> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 07:07:29 -0500
> From: Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Marion and Lane County, Oregon county roads
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> On 12/2/13 3:50 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> On 23:48 2013-12-01, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> 
>>>  As far as I'm aware, based on over 25 years of living and traveling in
>>> Oregon ending in roughly 2010, no Oregon county prominently marks county
>>> reference numbers, which would make the vast majority, if not all, of
>>> the county route numbers in Oregon on ways invalid under the current
>>> tagging scheme (even if technically correct).
>>> 
> first, verify whether these two counties follow the practice
> of unsigned county routes. if they do, then convert to unsigned_ref
> (in NY most counties sign their routes, but several do not. it is
> within the realm of possibility that in OR, most counties do not,
> but some do.)
>> Is it possible that these route relations were converted from
>> `name_1=County Route 123` tags in TIGER ways? TIGER data in Ohio is
>> littered with such tags, and I've been converting them into relations
>> in counties that are known to signpost county routes.
>> 
> that's certainly one reason. another potential reason is that
> some mapper became familiar with the county highway
> department inventory numbering system and added those.
> i'm moving a bunch of those to unsigned_ref in Westchester
> County NY (unsigned CRs) right now.
> 
> richard

I think the interns at TriMet added the ref= tag to the county roads.  Paul's right, Yamhill, Multnomah, Marion, Clackamas and Washington counties don't put sign county reference numbers; I figured it was a side effect of what renderer chooses to draw.  I had no idea there was an unsigned_ref= tag.  (Maybe someday we'll get a county-specific renderer instead of handling that at the tagging level.)

That said, I'm not planning on volunteering to switch the tags from ref= to unsigned_ref=.  Maybe someday.

-Dion