[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Fri Feb 8 23:59:22 GMT 2013


Good point, though was hoping someone in the Orlando area other than NE2
could weigh in (since this is a rare example of me chasing a Mapdust bug
out to his area).


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Apollinaris Schöll <aschoell at gmail.com>wrote:

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>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>> NE2 is going on the "World according to NE2" bender again, need a ruling
>> on this relation before I revert:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2249811
>>
>> Turn in question is southbound World Drive at Buena Vista Drive in
>> Orlando, http://binged.it/128OlwZ.  Despite left turn only markings on
>> the southbound approach and a flush median gore preventing a straight-on
>> movement, NE2 is of the opinion, and removed the relation, on the excuse
>> that "Anyway, I've deleted the turn restriction, since I cannot recall
>> having seen any signs prohibiting the movement, and you have not seen any
>> such signs because you have not been there." Never mind that the left
>> turn only sign is clearly marked on the pavement. He questioned the legal
>> standing of the marking since it omits "ONLY," despite the fact that
>> section 4.2.1 of the Florida Traffic Engineering Manual requires ONLY to be
>> omitted in situations such as the ramp in question (a straight/left arrow
>> would be required for a through-or-left-turn lane).
>>
>> Who's right?
>>
>>
> You. it's clearly signed on the pavement. We are no lawyers to challenge
> his interpretation in court. So as long as no one gets a ticket and wins
> the court case it's the right thing to have a restriction.
> And NE2 is known for fighting just for the fight. I come across tons of
> crap from him in areas he has never seen. I fix it and don't even consider
> to contact him.
>
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