[Talk-us] Who controls data: Google Maps, others erasing Hollywood sign, but it's in OSM

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Fri Nov 28 19:10:33 UTC 2014

Well, I think a a huge difference between the Hollywood Sign and Mount
Rushmore is Mount Rushmore is clearly a site dedicated to the monument.
The Hollywood Sign, IIRC, is on public property left flat save for the
sign, with no special status.  Furthermore, the individual letters are
obviously distinct (the letters, as viewed from most angles, have a bit of
a wavy roll to their baseline and clearly don't quite face the same angles
(most casually obvious at sunset).  It wouldn't surprise me if the
individual letters are useful to geocachers at a minimum.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Andrew Wiseman <awiseman at gmail.com> wrote:

> That was me -- but I would argue it's an unusual way to tag it -- it's not
> the individual letters that are important, it's the whole piece. You
> wouldn't tag each president in Mount Rushmore and leave it at that, right?
> To me the letters are secondary and to the whole. The FDR Memorial in DC is
> the same way, each part is tagged, but there's a point for the whole thing.
> Or maybe it should be tagged as an area, since the sign takes up an area?
> Andrew
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-11-25 16:48 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wiseman <awiseman at gmail.com>:
>>> Interesting, but now it doesn't render. I saw it was gone and worried
>>> somebody from that article took it off. Can we include a point in the
>>> relation for it, so that it does render?
>> Someone has indeed done this. IMHO we shouldn't duplicate the data (or
>> non-data, in this case there are no more tags than name and
>> tourism=attraction on the new node), we should find a way to render the
>> name from the relation without "tagging for the renderer"-hacks. This would
>> include changing osm2pgsql to deal with site-relations.
>> I couldn't find any ticket for site-relations in the osm2pgsql and
>> osm-carto repos, so I have added them.
>> cheers,
>> Martin
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Site
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