[Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations
baloo at ursamundi.org
Thu Nov 19 13:51:47 UTC 2015
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Paul Fox <pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us> wrote:
> paul johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Paul Fox <pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us>
> > > russ wrote:
> > > > Paul Johnson writes:
> > > > > I was really hoping the latest carto would have included
> > > > > relations and graphical shields myself, since that's almost
> > > > > a throwaway ticklist item for maps (and particularly online
> > > > > maps) the world over these days.
> > > >
> > > > I took the time to create relations for all of my county's routes
> > > > because I wanted to see them rendered with graphical shields.
> > >
> > > thinking about the term "sunset" in the subject: when route relations
> > > are created, does that mean the ref= tags go away? seems like there's
> > > a need for a transition period in there somewhere.
> > >
> > Obviously there needs to be a sunrise for consumers to catch up, but
> > eventually the dinosaur needs to be killed. There's some places where
> > way has a ref unique to the route, as noted on the ground, that
> > isn't easy to map thanks to the associated tag already being used to
> > identify the ref of an entirely different entity (the route relation).
> > also suggesting that the quicker we do this, the more painless it'll be.
> okay. then, speaking as the maintainer of an independent renderer:
> where are such sunrise/sunset transitions announced/scheduled/tracked?
> is the "announce" list the place to be? (all i usually see there is
> server outages.) can someone point me to a region (most of) whose
> routes have been converted, for testing?
This is being discussed right here, right now. I threw the end of next
year out there as a roughly 15 month target from when I mentioned it. The
US is reasonably complete in terms of route relations, particularly in
Texas which tends to be an extreme case.
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