[Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

[Mike Dupont]

Here in NJ they pass you on the right on these lanes, it is totally insane.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:29 PM, John Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> My experience elsewhere is that shoulders are not considered legal driving
> lanes for motor vehicles, except under special circumstances, such as a
> construction zone where a normal driving lane has been shut down. People who
> try to use the shoulder as a driving lane receive traffic citations.
>
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> On October 12, 2015 11:05:12 PM Jack Burke <burkejf3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wait, question:
>>
>> Are these shoulder lanes under discussion *only* for bicycles, or for
>> motor vehicles as well?
>>
>> --jack
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Elliott Plack <elliott.plack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I have not seen the Shoulder or Lanes tags in wide use yet. I use the
>>> cycleway tags on the highway line way to denote bike lanes that are part of
>>> the road surface, as it seems your case is. (cycleway:right=lane). Though in
>>> this case it is arguable if the shoulder is a lane. What is certain is that
>>> most cyclists treat shoulders as such.
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
>>>
>>> I'm interested in routing and the Open Source Routing Map project. Cycle
>>> and ped routing is especially interesting to me as an athlete, and so I
>>> looked on the ORSM backend for clues on how they're handling shared lanes
>>> and such. Looks like one of these tagging combos will work:
>>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f8bd05f83fa2ccc542c2c44761f548a1e8b7579/features/bicycle/cycleway.feature
>>>
>>> Elliott
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM Mike Dupont
>>> <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> This road cr 546 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/566939) and
>>>> many others here in the area has extra wide  wide shoulders that
>>>> people use for walking or biking. How do you want to tag them as such
>>>> so that we can also use that for routing?
>>>>
>>>> Here is a table of the segments with lane information
>>>>
>>>> http://lawrencetwp.com/documents/planning/Route546BikewayBicycleCompatibilityMatrix.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder and
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes what are your thoughts on a
>>>> detailed tagging for this information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> mike
>>>>
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