[Talk-us] Extra wide shoulders / travel lanes in NJ

[John Eldredge]

My experience elsewhere is that shoulders are not considered legal driving 
lanes for motor vehicles, except under special circumstances, such as a 
construction zone where a normal driving lane has been shut down. People 
who try to use the shoulder as a driving lane receive traffic citations.

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On October 12, 2015 11:05:12 PM Jack Burke <burkejf3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait, question:
>
> Are these shoulder lanes under discussion *only* for bicycles, or for motor
> vehicles as well?
>
> --jack
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Elliott Plack <elliott.plack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I have not seen the Shoulder or Lanes tags in wide use yet. I use the
>> cycleway tags on the highway line way to denote bike lanes that are part of
>> the road surface, as it seems your case is. (cycleway:right=lane). Though
>> in this case it is arguable if the shoulder is a lane. What is certain is
>> that most cyclists treat shoulders as such.
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
>>
>> I'm interested in routing and the Open Source Routing Map project. Cycle
>> and ped routing is especially interesting to me as an athlete, and so I
>> looked on the ORSM backend for clues on how they're handling shared lanes
>> and such. Looks like one of these tagging combos will work:
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f8bd05f83fa2ccc542c2c44761f548a1e8b7579/features/bicycle/cycleway.feature
>>
>> Elliott
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM Mike Dupont <
>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> This road cr 546 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/566939) and
>>> many others here in the area has extra wide  wide shoulders that
>>> people use for walking or biking. How do you want to tag them as such
>>> so that we can also use that for routing?
>>>
>>> Here is a table of the segments with lane information
>>>
>>> http://lawrencetwp.com/documents/planning/Route546BikewayBicycleCompatibilityMatrix.pdf
>>>
>>> I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder and
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes what are your thoughts on a
>>> detailed tagging for this information.
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> mike
>>>
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