[Talk-us] Ferry durations

m at rtijn.org m at rtijn.org
Wed Jul 12 19:52:23 UTC 2017

I used to depend on a ferry for my commute[1] so the topic connects with me as well.

Looking at how this is currently mapped, I see some shortcomings we might want to address:
* The duration is mostly mapped on the way, rather than the route=ferry relation. Often the route is more than one way, wouldn’t it make more sense to map duration as a tag on the relation?
* The duration can be different depending on time of day / direction. Accounting for that may make the tagging unwieldy so I’m inclined to not deal with that, but what are your thoughts?
* Would it make sense to map hours / days of operation using the opening_hours schema as well?


[1] This was back in Amsterdam. There is a tunnel for motorized traffic to the city, but the only option for cyclists and pedestrians (>50% of all commutes!) is a ferry. It runs very frequently and the crossing is short, but to optimize my commute I created a mobile web site that counted down to the next departure, so I could quickly look up the time to the next departure so I knew whether to pedal a little faster or slower. Defunct now but here is the blog post for historical reference https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/ <https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/> 

> On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Nick Peihl <nick.peihl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Martijn,
> As a resident of a ferry-served island in WA, I fully support adding this job to MapRoulette. Thanks!
> Nick
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:57 AM, <m at rtijn.org <mailto:m at rtijn.org>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just to let you know, my map team colleagues have been adding a few `duration` tags to ferry routes in BC yesterday. Since this was already established practice, I am only mentioning it now. I am crossposting to talk-us because I wanted to see if folks there have given any thought to ferry duration tagging? The documented practice is to add duration=hh:mm to the way that makes up the ferry route. If you think this is fun to map I could add ferry routes without duration to MapRoulette.
> Here is the current state of duration tags in BC: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE>
> Martijn
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