[Talk-us] Ferry durations

[m at rtijn.org]

> On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:52 PM, m at rtijn.org wrote:
> 
> I used to depend on a ferry for my commute[1] so the topic connects with me as well.
> 
> Looking at how this is currently mapped, I see some shortcomings we might want to address:
> * The duration is mostly mapped on the way, rather than the route=ferry relation. Often the route is more than one way, wouldn’t it make more sense to map duration as a tag on the relation?

Case in point, run this query and you see that the result is just the start / end stubs of the route, the ‘main’ ferry route way apparently has the duration tag: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlF

> * The duration can be different depending on time of day / direction. Accounting for that may make the tagging unwieldy so I’m inclined to not deal with that, but what are your thoughts?
> * Would it make sense to map hours / days of operation using the opening_hours schema as well?
> 
> Martijn
> 
> [1] This was back in Amsterdam. There is a tunnel for motorized traffic to the city, but the only option for cyclists and pedestrians (>50% of all commutes!) is a ferry. It runs very frequently and the crossing is short, but to optimize my commute I created a mobile web site that counted down to the next departure, so I could quickly look up the time to the next departure so I knew whether to pedal a little faster or slower. Defunct now but here is the blog post for historical reference https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/ <https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/> 
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Nick Peihl <nick.peihl at gmail.com <mailto:nick.peihl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Martijn,
>> 
>> As a resident of a ferry-served island in WA, I fully support adding this job to MapRoulette. Thanks!
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:57 AM, <m at rtijn.org <mailto:m at rtijn.org>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just to let you know, my map team colleagues have been adding a few `duration` tags to ferry routes in BC yesterday. Since this was already established practice, I am only mentioning it now. I am crossposting to talk-us because I wanted to see if folks there have given any thought to ferry duration tagging? The documented practice is to add duration=hh:mm to the way that makes up the ferry route. If you think this is fun to map I could add ferry routes without duration to MapRoulette.
>> 
>> Here is the current state of duration tags in BC: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE>
>> 
>> Martijn
>> 
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