[Talk-us] Jefferson Notch Road and latest "GPS made me do it" in the news
Zeke Farwell
ezekielf at gmail.com
Thu Jan 2 04:50:05 UTC 2020
This looks like something that there still is not consensus on.
Here are couple of roads that are not plowed in the winter in my area of
Vermont. Both are tagged differently:
Lincoln Gap Road: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533
VT 108 through Smugglers Notch: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48775843
Looks like we have a few different overlapping keys:
- access:conditional
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Conditional_restrictions&uselang=en-US>
- seasonal
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal?uselang=en-US>
- winter_service
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:winter%20service?uselang=en-US>
winter_service=no looks like the simplest option to me, but not knowing how
the data will be used, the safest bet is probably to put *"closed in
winter"* right in the name as is the case with VT 108. It's not correct
data modeling, but it will mean people looking at a map are sure to see it.
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:10 PM Bill Ricker <bill.n1vux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Burlington Family Rescued After GPS Leads Minivan Down Snowmobile Path.
> BURLINGTON (CBS)
> > It was an early morning rescue by ATV Sunday in Jefferson, New Hampshire.
> > ... The family was stranded on Jefferson Notch Road, which is restricted
> to snowmobiles only during the winter months.
> > 2 days ago
> >
> https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/12/29/burlington-family-stranded-after-following-gps-onto-snowmobile-trail
>
> Yeah, I'm not surprised that a road that goes literally through Jefferson
> Notch isn't plowed in the winter; the road's high point in the notch (aka
> "col" or "saddle," the diminutive of "pass") is 3,009 feet (917 m), only
> barely below the height of Mount Mitten (929 m) which the road passes, and
> lower than Currier Mtn (838 m) just beyond. Yeah that's not high in young
> mountains, but at this latitude, that altitude gets plenty snow. I expect
> even the winter snowmobile path through the notch should be attempted only
> by parties of multiple experienced operators prepared for mountains'
> changeable conditions.
>
> (I'm guessing the gating/bollards will get upgraded so that only
> snowmobiles, Cats, and emergency 4WD/6WD even /can/ enter during winter.)
>
> In the summer, this road will provide a lovely if challenging shortcut
> between US 2 and US 302, of which there are precious few in the environs of
> Mt Washington and the Presidential Range of the White Mountains.
>
> OSM - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18846225#map=12/44.3103/-71.3696
> Our way does not (as of this writing) show a tag indicating seasonally
> variable access.
> Proposed tag winter_service=no
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:winter_service%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1>
> isn't quite strong enough but would be a start.
>
> What is the right way to tag a road which is 3 season dramatic automobile
> mountain short-cut and one-season snowmobile trail?
>
>
> --
> Bill Ricker
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