[Talk-us] Name tag on unnamed, but numbered routes

[Zeke Farwell]

I'm sure loc_name="The 5" probably would be appropriate on route relation
as that is what the locals call it 😉.  But that's beside the point.
Vermont Route 15 (and many other Vermont state highways) is literally
signed with that name on street name signs.  It's the real name, not just a
colloquialism.

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On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:27 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:08 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:49 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Zeke Farwell <ezekielf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:52 PM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure noname=yes with official_name=* set is automatically a
>>>>> tagging error...that would be the *de facto* name.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is why a name like "Route XX" is perfectly valid when that's what
>>>> people call it and how it's signed.  Two examples near me:
>>>>
>>>> *Vermont Route 15*
>>>>
>>>>    - Name:  Vermont Route 15
>>>>    - Alt Names:  Route 15, VT Route 15
>>>>    - Short Name: VT-15
>>>>    - Official/Memorial Name: Grand Army of the Republic Highway
>>>>    - Route Number: 15
>>>>
>>>> No one calls it Grand Army of the Republic Highway and signs with that
>>>> name appear only rarely.  Addresses never use that name.  The de facto name
>>>> where there is no local street name is Vermont Route 15.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Interstate 89*
>>>>
>>>>    - Name: Interstate 89
>>>>    - Short Name: I-89
>>>>    - Official/Memorial Name: Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway
>>>>    - Route Number: 89
>>>>
>>>> No one calls it Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway and if there are any
>>>> signs with that name I've never seen them (I've looked).  The de facto name
>>>> is Interstate 89.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In both of these cases, the official name should be the name tag, and
>>> not duplicating the ref tag or route relation.
>>>
>>
>> The common names are Vermont Route 15 and Interstate 89, so that's what
>> makes most sense to have in the name tag.  Official names that barely exist
>> in the real world belong in official_name or some other alternative name
>> tag.
>>
>
> By that same rationale then we should just strip the Golden State Freeway
> name off I 5 and set it to name="The 5"
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