[Talk-us] Importing CobbLinc Public Transit Routes from Government Data

[Sam Whited]

If anyone is interested, I pushed the conversion program and an example
XML file (containing only the routes) here:

https://codeberg.org/SamWhited/cobblinc

—Sam

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, at 23:15, Sam Whited wrote:
> Thank you,
>
> I've reached out to the NTM to request clarification on the license
> / see if they'd be willing to sign the waiver mentioned in the link
> you sent.
>
> That being said, I don't understand the paragraph about relations and
> it might be that I'm just not an experienced enough mapper to complete
> this project. Most of the public transit routes around me seem to just
> be that people recorded a bus ride and drew a line, they are along the
> roads, but seem to be different entities (or I just don't understand
> what's going on, which is much more likely). I'll look into it a bit
> more before throwing in the towel though.
>
> Thanks for the help, Sam
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, at 15:43, Mike Thompson wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> Thanks for reaching out to the community.
>>
>> You will need to follow the guidelines here:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>>
>> including creating a wiki page for your import describing your
>> process.
>>
>> You will also need to make your script available, and at least a
>> sample of the output from the script.
>>
>> In regards to your specific idea, transit routes in OSM are relations
>> that reference other elements, such as roads, that are usually
>> already in OSM. This means that you cannot simply "upload" this data
>> to OSM, but rather must come up with a method of building the
>> necessary relations.  How you intend to do this should be described
>> on the wiki page for your import.
>>
>> Regarding the license, CC-BY 4.0 International is "likely
>> incompatible"[0]
>>
>> Mike
>> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 8:37 AM Sam Whited <sam at samwhited.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've written a script to convert the data located here:
>>>
>>> https://data.bts.gov/dataset/NTM-CobbLinc/vsae-bxvy
>>>
>>> Into an Open Street Map compatible format.
>>>
>>> I was hoping to do an upload of all the CobbLinc transit routes
>>> (stops are converted too, but I'll skip those for now as this data
>>> is somewhat old and I can verify the routes easily, but not the
>>> stops) since only a few of them exist on the map right now.
>>>
>>> I wanted to check with the community first and see if this is an
>>> okay thing to do? The data says it's CC licensed, however I believe
>>> that since it's government data created during an employees work
>>> this may be wrong and they are required to release it under the
>>> public domain (I've noticed a lot of agencies putting CC licenses on
>>> things recently though, so maybe I'm wrong and I just don't know how
>>> the government data laws work here). Either way I think we can use
>>> it and I could give credit just to be safe.
>>>
>>> What other considerations should I take into account? I read the
>>> wiki page that said to check with the community and publish from a
>>> one-off account, so this is me following up and trying to figure out
>>> what the best course of action here is, or if this is even desired.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> —Sam
>>>
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