[OSM-talk] Re: privacy policy

[Etienne]

Currently making maps with OSM is quite a skilled process.  If we are to get
any where near 98% coverage we need to make it easier.  Currently there are
maybe 50 regular contributors in the UK.  To cover the UK we will need more
like 500 or 5000 contributors.

Even skilled, concientious and diligent contributors can get it wrong.  The
very next road to me is named Vaillant Road.  For a long time that was in
OSM as Valliant Road.  Probably the only person who would spot that error is
someone who actually lives in that street.

The tools aren't good enough to lower the bar much at the moment, but in the
longer term we need a lot more contributors and we need a way for people
with very very local knowledge to easily verify and flag up errors.

Etienne

On 7/28/06, Barnett, Phillip <Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Martyn has a point.
>
> The legalities of copyright are not apparent to a casual user, hence the
> FAQ. It's been suggested that a casual browser might want to quickly add
> a streetname, or several, without taking the time to create an account.
> It's very likely, in that case, that he/she won't have taken the time to
> read/notice that he can't just copy names out of Google Maps, or
> whatever, in a misguided attempt to be 'helpful' - which then breaks
> copyright.
>
> Secondly, OSM is difficult. I'nm trying to tidy up
> Bloomsbury/Clerkenwell area of Central London, and am finding it heavy
> going. There's a lot of unnamed streets, (all of them are, basically)
> and no obvious points of reference, and not every street is mapped. I
> can see a user picking the wrong street to name (off by one, perhaps,
> and then naming the next half dozen streets adjacent to it from memory,
> and making further errors because the fourth street along the road has
> been missed off the map.
>
> OSM mapping is difficult - I suggest we should be raising the bar to
> participate, rather than lowering it, at least in the early stages.
> Eventually, when 98% of the map is complete, it would be nice to get the
> last few streets cleared up by the public, but when the base map is so
> shaky, I don't think we should let someone who's attention span doesn't
> even let them create an account potentially corrupt the data. It's not
> Wikipedia.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Martyn Welch
> Sent: 27 July 2006 23:04
> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Re: privacy policy
>
> On Thursday 27 July 2006 19:41, you wrote:
> > Martyn Welch <martyn at welchs.me.uk> writes:
> > > I disagree. It was no more hassle than signing up to any BBS or
> > > mailing list!
> >
> > Don't you have to click on a link that you get in an email?  Most
> > people now use white listing so you get a delay maybe up to an hour
> > between your registring and when you can edit.  If I was going to do
> > just some edits that delay would probably be a reason not to do it.
>
> Right, so by allowing the most fickle minded people to contribute,
> otherwise prolific and loyal contributors are left firefighting the
> vandalism and clueless who drag stuff around and delete bits, which has
> just been made 100 times easier since they can just load a web-page?
>
> Martyn
>
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