[OSM-talk] The OSM Applet - let's ditch it for JOSM (was: Mapping Reading, some impressions)

[Etienne]

On 9/5/06, Tom Carden <tom at tom-carden.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On 04/09/06, Tom Chance <tom at acrewoods.net> wrote:
> >
> > The web applet sucks.
> >
>
> Speaking as the person who wrote the initial version of the current
> applet, can I just say that the continued trashing of it on this list
> is tiresome, offensive, and not constructive.


It is the burden of all software developers that their users will criticize
the software.  Try not to take it too personally.  It is never meant
personally and is usually a clumsy attempt to be constructive.



> I accept, as I'm sure
> do Steve (who wrote the tiling interface to the applet amongst other
> bits) and Imi (who retrofitted tagging into the applet, even though he
> didn't like it!), that the way the applet works just isn't viable for
> efficient and productive editing.  If we knew then what we know now,
> we would have done it differently.  I don't want to hear any more "the
> applet sucks" type criticisim.  Everyone agrees it's unusable... and
> yet nobody is stepping up to do something about it.
>
> Here's my suggestion:
>
> It seems that for 99% of people actually actively mapping, JOSM is the
> main tool of choice (no offense to other editor writers).  How about
> we ditch the applet and put a page about JOSM on the edit tab?
> Download links, how to navigate to the area you were just viewing, a
> full tutorial, etc.  I don't think at the moment it would hurt OSM one
> bit if JOSM became an 'official' client and there was no web-based
> editing solution.


Or have www.openstreetmap.org go to the wiki and have a link from there to
the slippy map at edit.openstreetmap.org.

These are changes that can be written by any one of the extremely
> motivated non-coder OSM contributors, and would be far more
> productive, and less hurtful, than whining about the applet.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom.
>
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