[OSM-talk] Notebook scans
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Mon Aug 13 01:03:38 BST 2007
On 8/12/07, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> > I can't decide whether this is a good idea or not. So far I take the
> approach of being transparent but cussed, i.e. it is good to keep a legal
> record but on a least effort basis and if some company doubts my word that
> I've visited an area, they are welcome to send a representative to my house
> at a time to my convenience wherever I may be in the world. What do others
> I, too, have always thought the "accountability" aspect was handled at
> much too high a priority in OSM. It is not me who has to prove that I
> didn't copy something from a map - it is the map owner who has to prove
> that I infringed on his copyright!
> I have always viewed the fact that OSM encourages me to upload GPX
> traces for the benefit of accountability as a kind of mistrust - "we
> want to keep our data clean and we don't trust you enough to just accept
> your word that you didn't copy data".
> Suggesting that I should upload my notebook pages (or maybe even
> dictaphone records) for the benefit of accountability goes in the same
> direction for me; we don't trust you so please lay open all your
No, it's not about mistrust, but more about respectability. An academic
paper that doesn't quote its sources is open to all kinds of criticism and
doubt. Having independently verifiable collateral is a "good thing". This
is why over 10,000 pages on Wikipedia are tagged with this template:
We should encourage and make it as easy as possible for everybody to
preserve their track logs, photographs, voice notes, sketches, etc.
If these original sources exist then it would be a shame for them to be
lost. There could be all kinds of unimagined uses for them in the future.
Like Mike, I do see the other advantages of uploading notes and traces,
> but the accountability aspect is something that sours it for me.
> But I've never felt too offended by that percieved mistrust, I put it
> down to Ordnance Survey Lawsuit Paranoia.
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