[OSM-talk] State of JOSM

[Ray Booysen]

On 12/9/07, Ulf Lamping <ulf.lamping at web.de> wrote:
>
> Karl Eichwalder schrieb:
> >> What are everyone else's thoughts on the matter?  I would prefer JOSM
> to
> >>
> > act
> >
> >> the way it did before just without an add segments option, it would
> mean
> >> an easier method (for me at least) of adding data.
> >>
> >
> > I'm inclined to second your wish (I updated just yesterday, I was using
> > an early API 0.5 enabled version).
> >
> > OTOH, you can get used to it...  For usability it is important that we
> > now stick with the way it is (at least for the next couple of years),
> > even if this stupid "hold control" (or "shift") to achieve this
> > special behavior is cumbersome for me...
> >
> >
> First of all, I disagree that the usability was good in versions before
> 0.5. The permanent switch between modes was really cumbersome - you'll
> only got used to it (but that's opposite to what usability really means).


I said that the usability after 0.5 dived, never mentioned it was good.  But
it was usable for me which is what usability means. ;)

Unfortunately, the current "modeless" way has it's drawbacks as well
> (especially the "key modifiers" are against what most people are used to
> do), but I think it's still at least better than it was before.
>
>
> However, I won't argue that the current way needs improvements as well,
> e.g. IMHO we desperately need a *delete action* in addition to the
> delete mode (at least I don't need the delete mode most of the time, but
> would need a delete action to delete single items).
>
> Regards, ULFL
>
> P.S: It would help a lot more if people are describing their workflows
> to explain where the problems are: "when I want to add a node then I
> first click ...". Simply complaining "I don't like this" doesn't help
> the developers in any way to improve the current situation ...


I'm also getting tired of the moment a person mentions something in the list
around a drawback or what other people think, we get a response saying
"Don't complain, do something about it."  The main reason for sending my
initial email was to solicit a conversion around what people think about the
current state of JOSM before going deeper into what we might be able to do.
:)

Cheers!
Ray

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Ray Booysen
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Ray Booysen
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