[OSM-talk] Code of Conduct was: AND donate entire street network of Netherlands to OSM

Foppe Benedictus foppe.benedictus at knkv.net
Thu Jul 5 08:19:39 BST 2007

Well, I am just for 2 (or even 1) week around this mailinglist and I am
very shocked about what is said on this mailinglist especially by the
founder. First I thought I just missed the humor and it was my
misinterpretation. But the reply on Martijn was totally out of bounds.

Foppe Benedictus

Corey Burger schreef:
> On 7/4/07, Steve Coast <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>> On 5 Jul 2007, at 01:22, Corey Burger wrote:
>>> That response was completely unacceptable. It is responses like this
>>> that keep people away from contributing.
>> While I agree that I was rude, and I apologise for snapping at
>> Martijn specifically, I don't know what else you want. Would you like
>> me to be polite? I'll re-phrase.
> Yes, and the point of about being polite is not exclusively aimed at you.
>> I think it's unfailingly negative backward-looking people who
>> critique everything who hold stuff back. I basically don't think you,
>> or they, have a clue about the effort required to do these things and
>> I'm tired of your sit-on-the-fence critique.
> I don't disagree that critiquing can be annoying and can be stop
> energy. However, the main point I am making is that when you replied,
> you were rude directly to him, not to the project in general.
>> Put my reaction aside for a second, and just think about this:
>> Imagine someone reading the list who's thinking about putting some
>> number of man-months in to convincing their boss or company to
>> release data to OSM. What would they think about the ton of shit you
>> get?
>> All they get at work is pain, and all they're going to get from this
>> list is why they're wrong, why they shouldn't do it, why they should
>> have done it months ago, why they should wait, why the data model is
>> wrong, why we need to wait for the 'fine-print', why we can't work
>> with them... They'll get a few people saying it's cool, which is
>> great but that's not the majority at all. What would be the point in
>> even contemplating engaging with OSM? They should just go home and
>> forget it.
> Think about this:
> Somebody comes along and see the founder of the project publicly
> attacking a contributor, calling them names and swearing at them. How
> does that look?
> Corey
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