[OSM-talk] Move leisure=slipway to waterway=slipway?

80n 80n80n at gmail.com
Sat Jul 7 12:50:06 BST 2007


waterway=slipway is the natural and obvious tag.  Even people who *know*
that it should be leisure=slipway may forget from time to time and tag it as
waterway=slipway or even highway=slipway.

There is no prohibition and no compulsion, do what seems right.

I noticed recently that a *very* experienced OSMer had been tagging
highway=footpath instead of highway=footway.  Let the renderers deal with
these things, its easy enough to handle several synonyms for common tags.

80n

On 7/7/07, Ulf Lamping <ulf.lamping at web.de> wrote:
>
> David Earl schrieb:
> > On 07/07/2007 01:08, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a reason not to change leisure=slipway into
> waterway=slipway?!?
> >>
> >
> > Because it involves changing everything that already understands the
> > existing tag, for no gain.
> >
> > The actual words used in the tag names and values are not very
> > significant. They're only for our convenience.
> Sorry, I don't understand you here, see below.
> > Changing things like this
> > has implications for minimal gain.
> >
> > Much more important is that the tagging scheme can support a concept at
> > all (route, for example, doesn't really work), and that we all use the
> > same tags (for non-specialist uses). Changing tags for cosmetic purposes
> > is counter-productive.
> >
> I simply disagree that this is minimal gain. Of course, this is a
> minimal thing per se, but these little things sum up.
>
> For me as a "none native englishman", it takes me hours (literally!) to
> read the whole map features page. To understand it, I have to read a lot
> of "proposed features" pages, translate some things into german using
> leo.org and alike. This is *very* annoying, keeps doubt and *any* help
> in reading this page is greatly appreciated.
>
> ... and having some tags that don't really fit makes this search much
> worse than it could be IMHO.
>
> I've tried to put some explanation and clarification to that page
> recently, but there is still a lot of explanation missing :-(
>
>
> Think of it that way: I'm personally trying to tag a slipway. I don't
> even know the right word in german for this, so I have no real chance to
> find an english word for it. I'm looking at the map features page and
> the first place I look into would be waterway - as this seems to make
> the most sense to me. NOW I'M STUCK and spend much more time than
> necessary to tag this.
>
> Of course, I can tag it now as "wo Boote in das Wasser kommen", but
> that's exactly what the map features page tries to avoid, right?
>
> Having said all this, your attitude "cosmetic purposes is
> counter-productive" makes me feel a bit sad. You don't seem to care
> about newbies having a hard time joining/learning the project, as you
> are already there for a while ;-)
>
> And yes, these little "cosmetic" things can take you hours and annoys
> you pretty much as a newbie.
>
> Regards, ULFL
>
>
>
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