[OSM-talk] Potlatch :-)

Nick Black nickblack1 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 13:41:49 GMT 2007


On Nov 22, 2007 1:22 PM, Barnett, Phillip <Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk> wrote:
> I had a quick look at Nuremberg in JOSM, and it does seem a slight exaggeration to say that 'half the city has gone' - in fact it all looks quite normal at first glance, assuming the usual radial symmetry of cities applies here. The original poster appears to have done A LOT of the city - pretty much the entire northern half of the city - and the bottom half appears normally present.
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> Of course, someone may have reverted the changes already. Uploaded a recent saved OSM file perhaps? Maybe all mappers should take frequent snapshots of 'their' area just in case catastrophe strikes?
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> Perhaps Karl could clarify the problem? (Incidentally, I don't think it's fair to castigate him for posting in German on an English mailing list - as far as I know Richard isn't a subscriber to the talk-de mailing list :-) and anyway, I understood the gist of what he said with my schoolboy German (and a quick check through the Google translator...

Right - but the issue here is that these kind of postings don't help
developers to fix problems.  This is a case of Karl venting his anger
rather than trying to fix the problem.

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> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst
> Sent: 22 November 2007 11:26
> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch :-)
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> Jon Bright wrote:
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> > One suggestion that I do have: I don't understand exactly how someone
> > managed to delete a large amount of data.
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> Yes, I think we could do with a bit more detail on the alleged offence.
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> I agree absolutely with your point. The challenge is to design a UI
> that makes Good Stuff easy and Bad Stuff hard! Potlatch tries to do
> this by "hiding" the one destructive action exposed to users -
> deleting ways - by requiring you to Shift-Delete. (That seems to work
> by the number of people on IRC who ask "how do you delete a way in
> Potlatch?" :) ) If you click a way and press Delete it will do nothing.
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> Brief digression - there did use to be one issue with merging ways
> where you could accidentally delete a way:
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> - User merges two ways
>    (Potlatch does what you'd expect: adds way B to way A, deletes way A)
> - User thinks "I've changed my mind, I didn't mean to do that"
> - User presses Esc to revert
>    (Potlatch reloads last saved version of way A)
> - Result is that way B is "gone" (though still in history, of course)
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> That was fixed the other week. Now, Potlatch makes a little note
> internally that "way A had way B merged into it", so when you press
> Esc to revert, it reloads both A and B. So that one's closed.
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> The undelete/revert stuff is potentially really froody. If someone
> tests it this morning it can go live this afternoon.
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> > Keep up the good work.
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> Thanks!
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> cheers
> Richard
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