[OSM-talk] Oxford University use without attribution

80n 80n80n at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 17:17:52 BST 2007


On 10/22/07, Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> This is great, but it would be embarrassing for the University and very
> damaging for OSM if the data was vandalised in their patch and appeared on
> the University web site for any length of time.
>
> Scenario: someone fiddles with the data, goes to Oxford University Web,
> checks that their vandalism is visible, takes a screengrab and posts it on
> some blog site and then loads of people follow the link back to the main
> university site and it ends up on the TV news. Far fetched? Possibly not,
> I
> remember the CIA hack that turned it into the Central Stupidity Agency,
> and
> someone could do something about as high profile using our maps.
>
> So... is their progress on the system to allow contributors to 'watch'
> areas
> that they caretake, and an 'undo' for malicious changes? I think we need
> that functionality asap and have a few people watch Oxford.
>
> Personally I keep an eye on central London and on Ipswich and the only
> vandalism I had noticed until recently had been in central London and was
> basically down to a small number of people scribbling across the map area
> which wasn't even visible because it wasn't tagged, but last week I
> noticed
> that someone calling themselves 'randomjunk' had changed the name of a
> section of Bishopsgate to 'Norton Folgate' (follow link below to see it).


Peter
randomjunk is a prolific and highly regarded OSMer.

Wikipedia revealed that "Norton Folgate is a short length of street in
London, connecting Bishopsgate with Shoreditch High Street on the northern
edge of its financial district, the City of London."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Folgate

So I think randomjunk is innocent ;)

80n


http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.520878289225685&lon=-0.081481346760652
> 77&zoom=15&layers=B000F000
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> (I will sort it out soon if no one gets to it earlier, but I would really
> like to know if they have changed anything else as well)
>
> I think we should make the 'watch' system a high priority if it isn't
> already and make it clear that only places that are 'watched' should be
> used
> on public sites.
>
> Also, the watchers could then provide a level of confidence for their
> areas
> as to completeness and accuracy which could also be available to users of
> the maps to help them choose whether to use them.
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>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:45:45 +0200 (MEST)
> > From: Jonas Svensson <jonass at lysator.liu.se>
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Oxford University use without
> >       attribution
> > Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
> > Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.51L2.0710221441580.5398 at nema.lysator.liu.se>
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> >
> > On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Stephen Gower wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 12:22:27PM +0100, Stephen Gower wrote:
> > > >   Oxford University's new website launched this morning.  Some of us
> > > >   noted that they are using OSM data (in fact, pulling tiles
> straight
> > > >   off the tile server) without attribution.
> > >
> > >   OK, attribution has appeared since I started composing that post
> > >   but the question of if there is an implication for tile.osm still
> > >   stands, as does the flattery that that map is better than Google's!
> >
> > We should also be aware that this is a single college, not the entire
> > university. There seems to be a lot of maps used by the different parts,
> > google, OSM, scanned to PDF and so on.
> > Still nice to see.
> >
> > /Jonas
> > >
> >
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