[OSM-talk] Old or dialectal names
wiseLYNX
wiselynx.naima at fastwebnet.it
Wed Feb 6 17:39:17 GMT 2008
Bèrto 'd Sèra wrote:
> Hi!
>
> This message went in error to Dave Stubbs only, sorry Dave. I'm half
> asleep and I when I'm like this I often press the wrong button :)
>
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>
> A small and humble correction: names are not "dialectal" as Piedmontese
> is a full-fledged ISO 639-3 language (code PMS) and it is recognized as
> "regional language" in the Statutory Chart of the Piedmont Region :)
> It's also taught in state schools to thousands children in the last
> years. So it does have a well defined standard orthography, too.
well, yes, I know. I simply didn't think it was _this_ important for OSM ^_^
> You might want to check your orthography with the guys at
> http://pms.wikipedia.org (just get to the article about the
> town/village you are mapping and enter your requests in the discussion,
> or directly on the article, if you can write proper piedmontese). If
> you look for a less "encyclopedic" sire you can go here:
> http://pms.i-iter.org/ I'm sure people will be eager to help you. In
> both sites you will find an Open Source piedmontese keyboard for both a
> standard american ANSI kb or an italian keyboard.
pity, I'm not that good to speak nor to write piedmontese, but for the
streen names I was talking about I can refer to the plaques in the town
(which is Vignale Monferrato, near Alessandria)
> For the case you are stating there is only a couple of minor mistakes,
> the correct form is "Contrà ëd mes" (as È is pronounced as in french
> Cafè, or in "Piemontèis"). Usually in the Turin area roads are called
> "Contrà", while when you move north towards Biela you frequently meet
> the term "Rua". Canals (not navigable) are usually called "Bialera",
> small rivers are "Dòire". A full list of piedmontese toponims and a
> first list of some local toponims is available here:
> http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ACa:Borgh_e_sit%C3%A0_d%C3%ABl_Piemont
They are "contrà", but being Vignale nearer Lombardia, it may be
something can change both in writing and in pronuciation.
> you are very much welcome in extending it with road names etc :) It
> would very nice and welcome if you put references to the openstreetmaps
> with piedmontese toponims in it in the articles, too :)
> You can drop me a line here:
> http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciaciarade:B%C3%A8rto_%27d_S%C3%A8ra if
> you need any assistance.
I'm quite new to OSM, what articles are you referring to?
> Thank you for your time and work!
> Bèrto
thank you Bèrto.. and, out of curiosity, because you too seem to come
from Piemonte, where are you from?
Enrico
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