[OSM-talk] Wiki: chriscf vandalism

Mike Harris mikh43 at googlemail.com
Sun Feb 1 11:22:01 GMT 2009

As a relative newbie I am not going to get too involved in this debate but
would just make three simple comments:

1. When I was a complete newbie (mapper) I would probably never have
continued with this excellent osm project had there not been a mapfeatures
page ... I would have been completely lost as to how to proceed and would
have just given up. The community would have lost a keen mapper (as it's me
- perhaps no bad thing (;>). So, although I understand the thought behind
removing mapfeatures I would "vote" (??? (;>) ???) against the proposal
unless mapfeatures is replaced by something else (what?). Förlåt, Erik, det
är inte bra!

2. If we have a voting system - until we vote against it - we should use it.
To ignore it imho denies the most basic underlying principle of any wiki.

3. There might be merit in restricting voting to an enfranchised
sub-community - I would not dare to vote on most proposals, at least not
yet, because I feel I don't have enough understanding either of osm or of
the tag subject matter. It would be (very) imperfect but how about a pop
quiz for would-be voters that becomes available after, say, a year's active
use of the site? (:>?)

Sei einsieitig Streichung - ohne Verhandlung ... höflich?

Regards to ALL of my colleagues

Mike Harris

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Johansson [mailto:emj at kth.se] 
Sent: 31 January 2009 12:03
To: Richard Fairhurst
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki: chriscf vandalism

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net>
> I'm starting to wonder about a "Tags I Use" system.

"How should I tag this" is one of the most commonly asked questions.
The wiki vote system works as a good system for commenting on proposals,you
system does not help this.

Great idea, though it wont replace voting.

>  I document it - maybe on the wiki
> Then, for those who like to have everything in a central place, once 
> the tags have been used n times, they can go in Map Features.

I think mapfeatures is the problem. Not only socially ("this tag must be in
mapfeatures") but technically (wikiload). So remove mapfeatures as first


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