mikh43 at googlemail.com
Mon Feb 2 08:46:48 GMT 2009
Thanks - I don't feel quite so bad now after reading your response ...
I think Sam makes much the point that I failed to explain properly. Forlåt
että jag förstår inte .. (or should that be Entschuldingungen daß ich nicht
richtig verstehen habe ... you never know with a googlemail address!)
From: Sam Vekemans [mailto:acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com]
Sent: 02 February 2009 06:12
To: Ulf Lamping
Cc: Mike Harris; talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Ya, im working on the wiki "smoothness=good"
Mike was just just giving examples.
:-) it should be ready for the peanut gallary in the next few days.
Btw: A horse & buggie has wheels.
Kids shoes can contain 'healies' (wheels in heal of shoe) ;-)
im using the explaination that; "good" is a "subjective adjective"
(then giving examples)
-and even as a sub:key, (road) 'good' always needs to be further explained
based on the context of the description.
.... Making this wiki in the most neutral POV -neithor for or against the
tag, just explaining what it is.
It might also serve as a 'good' template :-)
ps, the person who created the tag MUST have been playing 'devils advicate'
-fortunatly, it will help further understand the language of 'map features'.
On 2/1/09, Ulf Lamping <ulf.lamping at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Mike Harris schrieb:
>> ... And by the way ... Does 'good' mean:
> I guess you want to missunderstand this tag.
>> Good for a motorcar? (I know of local unclassified ("OS yellow
>> roads") that cannot be driven except in a 4WD (some appear on my
>> TomTom even).
>> Good for a horse and cart? (All Restricted Byways in England should
>> be suitable - but many are not - too narrow or have stiles).
> First of all, as you are talking a lot about horses indicates to me
> that you not even have read the proposal page. It explicitly mentions:
> "the physical usability of a way for wheeled vehicles"
> Do you know a horse with wheels? Do you know a *walker* with wheels?
>> Good for a horse? (How good a show jumper for those stiles - see
> see above
>> Good for a bicycle? (Many bridleways would be fine on a horse and yet
>> impossible on a bike - even where bikes are allowed)
> see above
>> Good for a walker? (How fit - what constitutes 'normal' ability? -
>> is a stile 'good' or only a kissing-gate?)
> see above
>> ... In short "good" (or "horrible") is almost entirely subjective
>> (and also
>> language-dependent) and even using a 1-5 scale is still
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