[OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

[Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:07 PM, MP <singularita at gmail.com> wrote:
> I notices few days ago user farlokko changed many shop=groceries into
> shop=greengrocer worldwide.
>
> The changeset is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959
>
> I think this change is wrong, at least for most nodes in czech
> republic - I know about nodes that I've added and only small part
> (perhaps one out of ten) of them are actually greengrocers, according
> to my knowledge. Most of them are ordinary grocery stores. Some of
> them even have no or very little selection of fruit and vegetables.
>
> The greengrocer is shop that sells fruits and vegetables (in czech
> language usually called "Ovoce a zelenina") and no other type of food
> - according to what is at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dgreengrocer and what
> would the name suggest.
>
> The groceries (I found shop=groceries at rejected features, though it
> was widely used, JOSM has it in presets, etc ..) should be used for
> shops selling general food (not only fruit and vegetables), but that
> do not sell anything other than food (like shop=convenience) and are
> small (so shop=supermarked won't fit to them) - at least this is what
> I think. In czech these are called "Potraviny", or "Večerka" if they
> have closing time very late in night.
>
> So the question is how to tag shops selling only food that are small?
> Should shop=groceries be used (and perhaps somehow added to map
> features or proposed features, or some other tag should be used?
>
> And should that changeset that converted shop=groceries into
> shop=greengrocer be reverted?

I sent farlokko the following mail via the website on September 29th:

"""
Til	farlokko
Titill	Please revert your changeset changing shop=groceries into
shop=greengrocer
Dags	þriðjudaginn 29. september 2009 kl. 14:15
I noticed you changed a shop I surveyed:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/305004175

shop=greengrocer is not the same thing as shop=groceries. The former
sells vegetables while the latter is a general groceries store.

Please revert this changeset:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959

And any similar changesets where you've globally mistagged previously
correct data. Thanks.
"""

He has yet to reply or revert his changes.