[OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

SteveC steve at asklater.com
Sun Feb 21 16:41:02 GMT 2010

On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Dave F. wrote:
> How is zooming all the way in & repeatedly panning around to centre up, quicker than one click to _accurately_  locate the problem?

Hi, you've never done a UI review.


Money quote: 

"Every user in this study struggled to get a basic grasp of the editing interface. Despite users’ overall excitement about Wikipedia, their willingness to spend up to an hour on the site, and varying levels of computer expertise, they largely failed to make edits correctly without repeated attempts and efforts."

It would be worse for OSM. Ir shouldn't be.

> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits because of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the problem and connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to deal with pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with it, at least until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every stupid thing in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're missing out on.
> You really are a grade A tosser.
> When most people here treat others with respect, why do you have to degenerate it into a juvenile, Youtube style slanging match?
> What do you think Granny's reaction will be when she reads this?

Sorry, do you disagree with any specific point I made?

Yours &c.


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