[OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

[Henk Hoff]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen <g.gremmen at cetest.nl> wrote:

> In general i know Henk as a reasonable man,
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Thank you


> ****
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> and I know he is in politics in the Netherlands
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Not anymore


> ****
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> so she should knew better then referencing to this ****
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> would-be-dictator Pierens Doodle Poll.
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> Huh? There has been a loud outcry that "they haven't been asked". I
reference to one of the polls put out by the community (not the Foundation)
and I get blamed by naming it?
Although I was not responsible for that poll, does not mean it has not
happened....


> ****
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> Read it and you will understand why is some “democratic” countries
> revolutions****
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> started. This Is what I call blackmail democracy.****
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> (the Poll does not even mention the CT) The Poll starts as follows:****
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> *You are not a member of the OSMF but in February 2010, you will be asked
> to accept the new Odbl or your account will be closed and all you
> contributions deleted from the database (or hidden which is the same).*
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> If one does not read carefully, one might even conclude that as****
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> a result of this poll your account may be closed.****
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Again, this poll was not put by the Foundation. There was a vote amongst the
OSMF membership. That was leading for further steps. The outcome of other
polls we were aware of, did not give us a reason to decide different.


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And it makes me fully understand why TimC writes:****
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> The community polls were post-hoc rationalizing, window dressing,
> unofficial and poorly worded. In legitimate democratic votes, the vote
> occurs BEFORE the decision to implement a plan takes place. It is tacitly
> acknowledged in that the mechanism in the CTs is different from what
> previously had happened. But really the past doesn't matter as much as what
> we do next
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I'm not responsible for a poll put out by a community member. So if TimSC
qualifies these as "post-hoc rationalizing, window dressing, unofficial and
poorly worded" is more an indication to me that TimSC opposes polls put out
by community members.

The vote amongst the Foundation members (not being "the poll") had also a
questionnaire asking about the preference of Foundation members to which
elements a future license should comply. Both gave a clear outcome.

Cheers,
Henk
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