[OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 27 16:46:46 BST 2012


Locally we have English and French.  Unfortunately on one local street has
the following physical signs on it "Prestone", "Prestone Drive", "Prom
Prestone Dr" depending which sign you look at.

Personally I prefer the name:en etc it makes it easier to electronically
search for the name.  Having to know that to find the road you have to
enter "Prom Prestone Dr" or "Promenade Prestone Drive" makes it much more
difficult for people to use the map.

Cheerio John

On 27 July 2012 10:06, Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 27 July 2012 04:56:43 Tirkon wrote:
> > >Rue de
> > >
> > >  Quelque Chose
> > >      Iets
> > >           straat
> > >
> > >With names it can be compacted as
> > >
> > >Avenue
> > >   John Doe
> > >          laan
> >
> > For me as a non native dutch/french this looks obfuscating.
> >
> > Is this the way you find it on the streetname-signs or only in OSM?
>
> No, those are street signs (also, not all street signs will put them like
> that
> either). In OSM it's either "name=Avenue John Doe - John Doelaan" or the
> other
> way around.
>
>
> > I mapped the street names in Sint-Genesius-Rode - Rhode-Saint-Genèse.
> > I heard people nearly only speaking french there and was not aware of
> > the heavy language dispute at that time. Thus I took the direction
> > french - dutch. (As well I filled in the name.fr and name:nl tag.)
> > Then a man living nearby told me that the belgium OSM community had
> > decided to write first the upper and then the lower sign into the name
> > tag. Thus he changed everything to dutch-french, which is the order
> > from the signs. After that other people changed some street back to
> > french-dutch. Since them I decided not to map there any more. ;-) I do
> > not want to be part of the dispute.
>
> Officially that municipality is Flemish, so Dutch-speaking, but has
> facilities
> for French. So according to the rules it should be Dutch - French. But yes,
> this creates some cases where the majority of the population is native in
> the
> other language...
>
> Ben
>
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