[OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

[Peter Wendorff]

Hi.
While I can see that there's the change from highway=bus_stop to 
public_transport=platform documented in the wiki, I did not follow that 
process when it happened, I think, but:
How is the fact tagged that any particular platform is a bus stop, and 
not e.g. a tram platform? Do we really rely on relations for bus and 
tram routes to exist and contain this platform as a member to decide 
upon that?

I therefore would still add both tags, as IMHO public_transport=platform 
does not tell the same stuff.

regards
Peter

Am 17.11.2012 14:17, schrieb Jo:
> If there is an actual platform, I tend to create way for it. Until now 
> I added both highway=platform and public_transport=platform to them. 
> As far as I'm concerned, that's tagging for the renderer though. I 
> could, of course, add both highway=bus_stop and 
> public_transport=platform to the 40000 stops in Flanders, but I 
> consider that a waste of precious space and bandwith.
>
> I'd prefer to have 1 tag for 1 concept and that's  the reason why the 
> proposal got my vote. I'm very patient and I certainly didn't expect 
> it to be implemented everywhere right away, but we're 1,5 years 
> further now.
>
> I'll roll back the 100 or some such I already did and I'll go back to 
> waiting for the rest of the osm world to catch up. I can change them 
> in bulk at some point in the future.
>
> It seemed like a good opportunity to convert them now, as I'm 
> reviewing all the stops in my region and it helped me to keep track of 
> my progress. I created a nice new mapcss for the purpose, showing me 
> the name, ref, zone as well as a route_ref and also a not_served_by, 
> which I need for automatic quality checking. route_ref is interesting 
> as well for bus service which most probably won't get a route relation 
> (schoolbuses, market buses, student services and on call services 
> (Belbus)).
>
> If Mapnik ever gets changed, maybe amenity=shelter, 
> shelter_type=public_transport can also be rendered differently, since 
> now there seem to be a lot of hiking shelters next to the roads in 
> Belgium.
>
> Polyglot.
>
>
> 2012/11/17 Tobias Knerr <osm at tobias-knerr.de <mailto:osm at tobias-knerr.de>>
>
>     On 17.11.2012 10:15, Philip Barnes wrote:
>     > To tag bus stops as platform surely requires a survey?
>     >
>     > Tram stops tend to have platforms, as of course do railway
>     stations of
>     > course. Bus stops are normally flat however.
>
>     I think you are reading the public_transport=platform tag too
>     literally.
>     It merely denotes the place where passengers are waiting for the
>     transportation vehicle. It does not distinguish between flat and
>     raised
>     structures.
>
>     Quoting the wiki, "If there is no platform in the real world, one can
>     place a node at the pole."
>
>     Tobias
>
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