[OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

Russ Nelson nelson at crynwr.com
Tue Jun 24 03:14:36 UTC 2014


The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming
from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we
not admit to error? Y'all should try it -- it puts hair on your chest
and makes your boobs bigger (those would be gender-specific
enhancements. I'll let you figure out which gender wants which).
-russ

SomeoneElse writes:
 > There have been lots of changes to the "standard" style sheet recently 
 > (e.g. [1]).  The resulting map looks much nicer (farmland and other 
 > landuse much less glaring, names that really make no sense to be shown 
 > on a general map aren't).
 > 
 > There have however been some unintended consequences of the changes.  A 
 > number of abandoned railways near me were edited from "abandoned" to 
 > "disused"; I'm guessing that it might be because of the recent changes.  
 > Changeset comments along the lines of "changed to X so that it renders" 
 > and "I know we're not supposed to tag for the renderer but what's the 
 > point in mapping a feature which then doesn't appear" are relatively common.
 > 
 > The question, I suspect is what is the "Standard" style on the OSM 
 > website for?  It used to be "for mappers, but a nice rendering; one that 
 > you might actually use as a punter too".  Back when Osmarender [3] 
 > existed, that was the "if you want to see everything render, look at the 
 > instead" option.  The removal of features (see [2]) that people actually 
 > use means that the Standard style isn't really "for mappers" any more - 
 > it's a nice (very nice, actually) generic map style, but not one that 
 > you can use to make sure that what you've mapped is "technically 
 > correct" (e.g. joined polygons up properly).
 > 
 > So, where's the replacement for Osmarender?  I'm sure that someone, 
 > somewhere, will have created a CartoCSS style file that is much closer 
 > to "show everything" than openstreetmap-carto currently is. Currently 
 > for my own use I'm still using the standard style but at database update 
 > adding back in some of the recent removals (see [4] - it also does some 
 > England and Wales rights-of-way stuff). However, as the "standard" style 
 > becomes "nicer" it's becoming increasingly clear that it's not the best 
 > place to start from.  The question is, what is?
 > 
 > Cheers,
 > 
 > Andy
 > 
 > [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-June/069959.html
 > 
 > [2] https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/542
 > 
 > [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmarender
 > 
 > [4] 
 > https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua
 > 
 > 
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