[OSM-talk] OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap

[Janko Mihelić]

I have been proposing a very similar idea, where OSMdata would be used for
data that is not suitable for the main OSM database, but is not notable
enough for Wikidata.
For example: link objects to other databases, adding stuff like restaurant
reviews, creating categories which are not suitable for relations and so on.

But the way I thought it would be used is to add a new item to OSMdata, and
then link it to OSM with its OSMdata ID, "osmdata=Oxxx". That way the link
to an object would be stable, so if you convert a node to a way, you just
copy the osmdata id.

Your proposal to just shift the whole database to OSMdata is interesting. I
think a dynamic link could also be possible. OSMdata could just query the
main database when you ask it for N40983. It doesn't have to have a copy of
the whole database.

Janko Mihelić

2014-09-12 11:41 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian at gmail.com>:

> Hi all
>
> The (long) discussion about importing Wikidata tags in OSM has
> prompted this idea into my mind:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMdata
>
> I have also describe here in the IdeaLab on meta-wiki:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap
>
> Here's a quick summary:
>
> == What ==
> * using a MediaWiki + Wikibase - let's call it OSMdata[*] - install to
> host an item about every single object in OSM (following this schema
> Nxxx for nodes, Wxxx for ways, Rxxx for relations).
> * claims in a OSMdata page about an item map exactly to key, values
> pairs for the same object in OSM.
> * OSMdata is synchronized and kept up-to-date with the OSM database (read)
> * users can login in OSMdata with their OSM account and contribute,
> adding new claims this are saved back automatically in the OSM
> database (write)
>
> == Rationale ==
> * it seems awesome (!)
> * the OSM community gains a new editor for OpenStreetMap, an editor which
> use a well known interface and which can get all the benefits of
> MediaWiki+Wikibase software development
> * Wikibase is tested at 60x its current scale
> * Wikibase is used in another big project
>
> Let me stress again that I see OSMdata as being an editor, not a
> repository for OSM, in fact I image in it to be a specialized editor
> to be used for editing tags.
> In my view the idea is to provide a well known interface to edit OSM
> (both manually and automatically with bots, using the same bot
> frameworks already available for editing Wikidata).
>
> I have described this idea in the talk-it malling list (in Italian)
> and a (at least conceptual) similarity has been pointed out towards
> the textual editor Level0[2].
>
> I would like to know your opinion, and I would also like to set up
> some prototype with a small subset of the data. I tried to set up this
> myself but, unfortunately, I am blocked on the first obstacle, i.e.:
> how can I tell Wikibase to let me create items with names Nxxx, Wxxx
> and Rxxx instead of Qxxx? I do not know enough PHP (nor MediaWiki or
> Wikibase) to do this myself. Any help in this direction would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Cristian
>
> [*] any reference to Wikidata is purely intentional
> [1]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2014-September/044540.html
>
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