[OSM-talk] "guide to vandalism” in OSM?

[JB]

After having looked at a few @osmthis notes, my conclusion is that it
rarely helps: the location of the note is not precise enough, and the
photo cannot help with finding the poi location. Should use photo +
manual location. 

Still wondering about this « presume good faith » thing. If every note
should be resurveyed on the ground, why not just replace the creator
text with « please come survey here » ? And then, just randomly create
them around everywhere, just to encourage mappers get out ? 

Sure, you got someone give an example of two bad faith notes in France,
out of 21000 created, 19000 closed ? Are the statistics really worse
than that of vandalism ? 

JB. 

Le 12.02.2015 19:38, Pierre Béland a écrit : 

> We have to think of OSM as a global community where not all countires are equal with access to internet and computers. Often, people have smartphones and could contribute. 
> 
> Adding a note with photo would greatly help. The @osmthis Twitter tag let's do this. But it is uneasy then to communicate with these persons.adding @osmthis. The same functionality in OSM would be fantastic. But with anonymous notes, we cannot contact these people and obtain clarification. Then the risk that notes stay open for a long period since incompleted. 
> 
> Pierre 
> 
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> DE : Maarten Deen <mdeen at xs4all.nl>
> À : talk at openstreetmap.org 
> ENVOYÉ LE : Jeudi 12 février 2015 12h43
> OBJET : Re: [OSM-talk] "guide to vandalism" in OSM?
> 
> On 2015-02-12 18:23, Pieren wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Michał Brzozowski 
>> <www.haxor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> @Pieren: You switch topics so easily that I'm not sure what are you
>>> talking about precisely. Is your stance "Someone showed that it is
>>> easy to add fake notes, therefore we must assume that every single POI
>>> added from notes is fake unless we prove it 100%"?
>> 
>> I'm just saying that a note is not good enough as a single source for
>> contribution. Especially when it is easy to verify like in the two
>> reported examples (a bank and a bakery). And in case of doubt, you
>> just leave the note open for others instead of compulsive "close
>> notes" contributions.
> 
> I agree. Especially new notes, just wait a while until someone who maybe 
> has local knowledge picks it up.
> Another thought: give the possibility to add photo's to notes. That way 
> you have more confirmation that there is something. You still don't know 
> if it is there unless there are GPS coordinates in the picture, but it's 
> something.
> 
> Maarten 
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