[OSM-talk] Looking for "primary language" map

[Yuri Astrakhan]

I simply need to determine the most likely language of the "name" tag (not
the "name:xx" tag). Does not have to be 100% correct - even 80% is great.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:59 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

Orleans is part of Ottawa and all street names signs are bilingual or in
the process of being replaced by bilingual ones.  Certainly the street I
live on in Orleans has a bilingual street name sign.  The English French
question is very much political in Canada and I suspect much of the world.

Montreal has a quite large English speaking community which is rare in
Quebec.

You could try looking at the street names to see if they are in English and
have a second language name as well. name:fr for example.

Cheerio John

On 10 April 2017 at 20:47, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

Well it might not be as simple as you say...take for instance Ottawa. It's
in Ontario and pretty english. There is a suburb called Orléans in which is
pretty much "the french part of town" as most street signs will be in
french, but rest of Ottawa is pretty English(in terms of street signs)

 So generilizing wont help you much...

On Apr 10, 2017 8:27 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> wrote:

Exactly, and that's the map I need -- a set of shapes that define these
region mapping: Quebec+New Brunswick => fr, the rest of USA/Canada => en,
...
The shapes may overlap because that would make geojson smaller - I will
simply use the first one.

Having this map will allow me to determine the likely language of the
"name" tag for any location, which in turn make for a better multilingual
map.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

Well many countries have multiple official languages, Canada is French and
English, but in practice is mostly Quebec and New brunswick...with small
patches of french throughout the rest

On Apr 10, 2017 8:12 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> wrote:

James, thanks, but I was hoping for the language regions shapefile, e.g. in
the GeoJSON form.  The list of official languages will require a lot of
work to convert into the merged shapes, and it still not very good, as many
countries have several official languages, e.g. Switzerland.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:55 PM James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

Also have you checked:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory

On Apr 10, 2017 7:50 PM, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

More like French for the entirety of the province of Quebec

On Apr 10, 2017 7:38 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know of an open source language map - basically a set of
geoshapes with the corresponding language code?  Country boundaries are not
needed - e.g. Canada and USA would be English with the exception of French
for Montreal area.

This is needed to guesstimate what language the "name" tag is in.

Does not have to be very precise (10-20 MB is more than enough)

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