[OSM-talk] What can we offer local government?

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 15 12:52:23 UTC 2017


Nice one James.

Thanks John

On 15 March 2017 at 08:38, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The city of Ottawa already uses OSM in their opendata portal:
> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/sledding-hills
> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/neighbourhood-names
> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/airport-runways
> etc etc
> But I doubt they know/care as their portal was built by a consultant and
> not them.
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:31 AM, joost schouppe <joost.schouppe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> The page Clifford shared is of course an excellent resource (I started
>> the article :)
>> But your remarks are not very government-specific, so you probably won't
>> find an answer there.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Both locations use more than one language.  Both seemed unaware that the
>>>> map can be in languages other than English.  Apparently politically this
>>>> can be very important.
>>>>
>>>
>> There's many projects working on that problem. In Belgium we have a
>> famously complicated situation. Especially Brussels is interesting, where
>> both French and Dutch are used in the name=* field, split by " - " and with
>> language in more or less random order. We're working on mono-lingual tiles
>> to help with that:
>> http://tile.openstreetmap.be/#map=12/50.84366/4.39113
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Using R R.org apparently we can count things in the map.  Why anyone
>>>> would want to do this is a mystery to me but apparently statistians make
>>>> money from it so it must be useful to someone. Possibly local governments?
>>>>
>>>
>> There are many ways to count thing on a map :)
>> Just a random example: you might want to make a classification of
>> different kinds of neighborhoods (sleeper village, city center,
>> agricultural area, holiday area). You can do that completely automated for
>> a whole country using OSM data (if it is complete enough)
>>
>>
>> The contact from Ottawa was aware that the city paid for the maps it used
>>>> on some of their web sites but wasn't sure about using OSM instead, the
>>>> idea of not having a contract would be difficult to get across.
>>>>
>>>>
>> Well yes, and there is no such thing as a free lunch. There are limits to
>> the use of OSM.org tiles. Running your own tile server is often deemed too
>> complicated by local governments. For bigger websites, they will often look
>> at the likes of Mapbox.
>>
>>
>>> Anyone any examples of how local government is using OSM?
>>>>
>>>
>> What Clifford said :)
>>
>>
>>> I understand part of the City of Ottawa, Ottawa Hydro does use OSM on
>>>> its web site by the way.  Something my contact was unaware of.
>>>>
>>>>
>> Typically, one branch of government has no clue what another branch is
>> doing.
>>
>>
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